8theGreat's World 8theGreat Experiences Soul Eater for the First Time in 100 Years and Talks About It

8theGreat posted on Sep 23, 2018 at 05:21AM
Hi guys I am 8theGreat and I was extremely obsessed with Soul Eater (errr, mostly Death the Kid...) from mid 2011 to early 2013. Maybe most of the way through 2013 too..... it was a bad time.

But you probably already knew that.

As fate would have it I am revisiting the series after some time away from it. As I was watching the first episode and half of the second episode I was talking about it on the Random wall thinking I would just spout off a few throw away a few nostalgic comments, but as it turns out I actually have quite a bit to say about it from a new perspective.


Obviously I held this series in pretty high regard for a long time. Let's see if it holds up to my current standards.


I don't expect anyone to see this so it's mostly for myself to take notes as I watch. I kind of want to do some sort of full essay about it in the future about why I loved it so much and what it means to me even now.

I might even try to convince some that Soul Eater had some genuinely good themes and even symbolism, because I've always felt that it has, though I seem to be in the minority here. At the very least I'm the only person I've ever met or even seen that feels this way about this series.

Either way I want to document my thoughts/feelings as I watch. Though I doubt
anyone will see this forum feel free to follow along and read through it if you'd like.

I'll watch the anime first and hopefully revisit the manga as well.

Edit 1: I'm going to add a sort of _table of contents_ so later if I just want to find my thoughts on a specific episode I can just go to the page it's on instead of searching through pages and pages of disjointed fluff. Since it's getting pretty clear that this is going to be pretty long it'll just save me some time later_

Edit 2: Okay so I know I said I'm taking notes and thats true but I also tend to be the type of person that talks to the TV during shows and movies, especially when I like whatever I'm watching. I would talk out loud while watching Soul Eater (and I did while I was watching while working when the internet was out) but since I've been doing this ~formal re-visitation~ at night while my significant other is asleep I've also been doing this as a means of talking out loud without actually talking out loud. I admit this fact. It has 2 purposes. Why am I bringing this up? Good question.

Edit 3: am also going to add a sort of, like, tally of themes I've noticed in the show? Just to keep track of different things and see how they tie up and are explored as the show goes on and so when I say "the themes" it's more clear what exactly I'm talking about.





Table of Contents
Episodes 1 & 2 link

First long-form post about Death the Kid, episode 3, thoughts on Prelude, start of episode 4 [u]link

End of episode 4, start of episode 5 [u]link

End of episode 5, limbs look oddly long, start of episode 6, staircase to nothing [u]link

End of episode 6, disjointed Lolita garbage, second long-form post about Death the Kid, start of episode 7 [u]link

End of episode 7, Redacting previous statement about a thing, "I can't believe you've done this." reference, start of episode 8 [u]link

End of episode 8, start of episode 9 [u]link

End of Episode 9, Excalibur Antics, Start of episode 10 [u]link

End of Episode 10, Start of episode 11 [u]link

End of episode 11, episode 12, start of episode 13[u]link


Theme... Counter? Table? Tally? Graph? Theme thing. The themes. (as noticed thus far)

[u]General themes

Madness obviously is one and I would say that madness is the main theme of the show.
Fear of course, but more so how this ties into the general idea of insanity. Maka and Soul's arcs goes into this theme and explores it in the most depth.
Order vs Chaos Another major theme of the show. A little bit more nuanced than the typical "good vs. evil" you see in a lot of shows of this nature.Still a bit cut and dry as to what we're supposed to side with at least in these earlier episodes. Kid's obsession with symmetry is a direct part of this theme although many other characters also play an important role with this theme.
Parenthood I hesitate to call this a specific theme so much as something the show features. Parents are a lot more present in Soul Eater than they are a lot of other anime or even other media with the same target demographic. Medusa and Spirit are directly opposite as parents and their children reflect this. Again I'm hesitant to really put this under a "theme" as Soul Eater doesn't really provide any sort of commentary or major narrative stuff about it but I still felt like the fact that some of the parent characters take active roles in the story and we see how their parenting has made an impact is worth acknowleding.
Boobs Aren't really a theme but they're there all the time. It's the show's aesthetic. Okubo is actually pretty good at drawing them I noticed while looking through the manga. just.... a side note. Side boob? Side note.
Oh and on that note
Aesthetics Again not so much a "theme" as much as a feature and something Soul Eater is exceptional at. I've talked nonstop since starting this about the show's keen aesthetics and how everything is so consistently aesthetic while everything also has a distinct aesthetic. The world really feels unique and well crafted in this regard. Although come to think of it Kid is always like "SYMMETRY IS MY AESTHETIC" and Soul is always like "THAT'S NOT COOL" so maybe there's more to this. Either way it's clear to see that Okubo has a keen eye for aesthetics and studio Bones was able to recognize this and put it into the show wonderfully.
Religion, and religion vs science? This is definitely more of a thing in the manga but Soul Eater contains some religious iconography and undertones. They're literally following the orders of a God without question. Spirit's tie is literally a cross shape. Black Star wants to transcend the Gods. Justin's entire character. I also don't think that the fact that Medusa and Stein- the two characters we see that most fall through the cracks of what this society considers moral- are both scientists is a coincidence. The religious iconography is what made me think about this show's themes all those years ago to begin with.

[u]Individual character arcs/themes[/b]

Maka and Soul- Fear, strength, madness, trust. Overcoming impossible obstacles.
Black Star- Overcoming impossible obstacles, self confidence.
Death the Kid Order and aesthetics.
Stein Madness, following one's own morality. In general being a sort of moral grey area. Slipping through the cracks of an imperfect society.
Spirit Boobs lol. Also parenthood. Little bit on the moral grey area as well.
Medusa- Madness. Chaos more than that though. Parenthood but the bad kind. Perhaps a bit of a moral grey area on this one too.
Crona- Madness, fear, fear resulting from low self esteem, low self esteem resulting from traumatic upbringing. Innocence being tainted for the sake of ideology/science? Whether or not someone can truly be faulted for their actions if they're being manipulated.

Will of course add to these.

Iconography and Motifs
Gonna fill this section up with stuff that reoccurs in Soul Eater that is core to the identity of the show. Mostly visual things that both do and don't relate directly to the themes if at all. Too tired to go on but I'm adding this now so I don't forget later.


Pic is one of many fanarts I drew of Death the Kid in high school. It's cropped though because the original was too large.
It was actually one of the last pieces of Kid I drew before I slowly started drifting away from both Soul Eater and art for many reasons. It seems rather fitting in this way.


 Hi guys I am 8theGreat and I was extremely obsessed with Soul Eater (errr, mostly Death the Kid...) f
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più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
Also pretty sure the name "Masamune" is also tied to Japanese folklore or maybe just actual history? Pretty sure it was the name of like a legendary craftsman who made the best swords in history ever. I remember looking that up cause of a video game bit I don't remember if it was that or some other Japanese M name related to swords and shit
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
Man there's some good composition in this show
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
How would needles deter thieves anyway if I wanted to steal shit no random ass building spikes gonna stop me
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
I only steal things in Elder Scrolls tho
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
The soul possession thing they go into right here kind of makes sense with the trouble black star has with the sword later good stuff
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
Pacing seems to be off again hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh we were doing so well
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
This is a really good episode for both Black Star and Tsubaki though it establishes so much about them both and their dynamic and the character dynamics are the best thing about this show so it's good stuff
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
Excalibur doesn't give me energy after all I guess I'll probably go to bed after this one or stay up and spout nonsense.
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
Another thing I like about Soul Eater is that the types of weapons the meisters have make sense for each of them personality wise and narratively
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più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
QUALITY ART ONLY
 QUALITY ART ONLY
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
I do legitimately love how rough around the edges the characters are in the beginning ofthe show in terms of fiighting and stuff instead of them all being ready to face the kishin right off the bat even though they're all fairly skilled you can tell they need to mature a lot still especially black star which is good cause thats his arc
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
he said "puppet" and my brain was like "PUPPET CIRCUS"
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
Black Stars themesongs are the best
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
Man I'm bummed we never see this level of involvement from Tsubaki past this point she;s wholesome
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
Fights taking place inside souls is fekkin badass man
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
Man Black Star is such a wholesome pal
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
THE AESTHETIC OF INSIDE THE SWORD IS LIKE SO GOOD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH AND ITS GOT THE BALL FROM EARLIER
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
It's probably good though narratively that we don't know they're siblings until the last bit thats likea good reveal i guess
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
it had good build up to it
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
end episode 10
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
thoughts
okay so im getting to like slap happy tired state if you cant tell by the bad punctuation and spelling errors and run on sentences so i dont know how goood this is gonna beeeeeeee

pacing is still weird cmon soul eater we were getting past that please i know its hard but please guys
lots of good shot compositions this episode though especially with the masamune sword guy thats great its good it was spooky and i dig it

black star is a wholesome boy and this episode has a lot of good moments of characterization for him as we see that he is so willing to do whatever for tsubaki he's a good boy HES A GOOD BOY

i really liked the shot with the yen piece on the ground when it started raining cause they were like YOU'LL DO ANYTHING FOR MONEY and then he doesnt and even if the rain is somehting of a cliched way to show emotional weight I feel like it with the money on the ground next to the rock the woman threw right after we learned that some bad shit happened to this village and right before we learned about black star's history it was a good place to put it and it also worked because the rain works against black star in the fight so it gets that established while also carrying emotional weight and yeah good stuff
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
am I gonna go on hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i type a lot more when im tired cause I get slap happy and blabbery I TURN INTO EXCALIBUR COME TO MY 5 HOUR STORY TELLING PARTY
late night me is like way more orjtorjgorjgojrg than ordinary by the daytime me so this might get weird okay i think im gonna try and watch the next one cause I am typing a lot and it isn't stopping and if i layy down it;; be a bad idea
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
episode 11
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
man the way tsubaki is slumped over the sword also works its good visuals
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
BLACK STAR JUST TAKES IT HE'S SUCH A GOOD BOY THIS ALSO SHOWS THAT HE DEFINITELY HAS WHAT IT TAKES TO MATURE SUCH GOOD CHARACTERIZATION
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
I feel like the flower-without-fragrance thing would make more sense in a Japanese context maybe?? it doesnt make a whole lot of sense and it sounds like some japanese thing
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
*grab phone* *text prez*
is this a Japanese thing
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
THEY BROUGHT SNACKS
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
"snacks at a time like this???"
Yeah maka there's always time for snacks
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
watching these now i kinda feel like my previous dislike of these two episodes seem kinda unfounded there's great moments in this even though i dont care about masamune as a character how much he hurts because of tsubaki really hits hard cause shes so wholesome
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
pacing hhhhhhhhhhhhhh im giving up on you pacing
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
black star is best boy
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
Then tsubaki just claps fekkin quality
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
HE JUST PROTECTS TSUBAKI THROUGHTHE WHOLE THING wholesome boy it's like the "he protecc but also attacc" meme
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
man this episode does kinda hit hard cause like
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
YEAH GUYS SHES NOT ALONE LOOK BLACK STAR IS A GOOD BOY
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
"her true strength is in her soul!!!'
cornyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy but ok
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
Bih if you wanted to play house you just shoulda done thats why we are in this
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
Thats a nice shade of red on those petals
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
BLACK STAR JUST SHOWS UP IN HER BRAIN AND IS LIKE
I GOT YOU
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
SHows why tsubaki needs black star good stuff
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
do camelias actually not have a smell wait don't they use them to make tea how are they pathetic then wait what
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
gotta be some japanese thing
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
im just gonna send prez an out of context "is this a japanese thing" and he'll be like "what" and Im gonna be like "the flower thing" and he'll be like "what"
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
HES JUST HITTING THE SWORD WITH A STICK
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
TSUBAKI IS IN THAT WHAT IF YOU HURT HEr
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
Kinda lame that he stabs tsubaki like twice but she's like NAH IM FINE FOR NARRATIVE REASONS PLOT ARMOR GUYS
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
But like I guess it means Tsubajki didnt really kill her brother he just kinda changed which makes more sense to her character but I kinda feel like im making excuses
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
BLACK STAR BIG HUG AAAH HIS FACE HE'S SO WHOLESOME LOOK AT MY SON LOOK AT EM
più di un anno fa 8theGreat said…
way to shift the tone at the end of this episode though