Principesse Disney Article: Does Belle have a job?

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posted by MadameLee

I was on Youtube recently link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx1MmY1Bb50[/url][/url] (If te go down to the 60 replies). Someone thought Belle didn't have a job (and the triplets did) because she had enough 'free time to read and became delusional about life in 'poor provincial town' (not my words). The exactly wording of what the user detto was "I'm wondering that Belle are doing then even those triplets have their own jobs and responsibilities. Maybe idleness made her delusional? That life can be found outside of her town? " I pointed out that in historical speaking in those times women were only suppose to be able to read cookbooks o have recipes committed to memories and not read fairytales o something. that could cause 'women to start getting ideas'.

Then I asked him what kind of a job that the triplets did (and detto "lovely laddies" aka Les Miserables) . The guy replied they were getting water to either help take care of the animali o to transport it to their dad (if there is a dad for them) so he could do it. That the movie showed that even the triplets hd 'responsibilities' but Belle didn't.

I then detto in my successivo commento that the only job I saw them 'doing' was cerbiatto, fawn over the town's jock (aka Gaston) and they had what I consider to be jasel clothing (Jasmine+Ariel) kind of costumes (not the word I want but think of words that people associated with 'witch' (female dog), someone who sleeps around a lot, etc.)hence they were rich.

It's hard for me to explain the successivo bit. The guy detto because of the way I interpreted the triplets that I view Belle as hardworking and that the triplets would probably be at the most, daughters of a rich merchant and since they're so spoiled that the family would have been hard-pressed to support the spoiled brats. So that means that the triplets probably did have a job.

At this point another guy mentioned that getting water wasn't a job and even if it was that the triplets were taking their own sweet time to do the job. Then asked why we were talking about the triplets.

The OP detto that we assumed Belle was working because we saw her 'feed' the animals' and that she wasn't portrayed as a più dedicated worker then the triplets were. So that the conclusion was that we can't say that Belle was helping her father without also agreeing that the triplets would have to have responsibilities of their own and vice versa.

Then he got into the topic of the fact that he believes that Belle rejected a 'good' match (aka 'rich') in the hopes of something better. I pointed out to him that the issue here is that Gaston wouldn't allow any libri in his house except cookbooks, and except her to be up from dusk to dawn cleaning,cooking and popping bambini out (hopefully 7 sons). I can just imagine a couple of rules that Gaston puts down: "No libri except cookbooks in my house", "You must only agree with my politics", "We can only have sons, no daughters" and "If we do have daughters they have to be illerate and only agree with me o their brothers' o husbands' politics."

RoseOfRapunzel, mimansa and 2 others like this

TheFabulousFAN Well...no offense but, you are not really speaking English also no Belle does not have a job...except maybe to feed those chickens and um....yeah

TigerRanma I don't think she had a job. You only see her do house chores. I don't think women had jobs back then. Even the Bimbettes were probably just doing chores in their area. Reading this was a little frustrating.

MadameLee Sorry. It's just I didn't know how to get the conversation across what was happening. Could you help me edit it?

prussiaducky Interesting views :) I can see where you are coming from, but I believe she couldnt have had a true job since she had to take care of her father by running the home for him. Tiger-Ranma- Yes, women did have jobs then. Watch "Les Mis", many had jobs in textiles and maid-work. Some even ran wine shops. FabFAN- do you understand what English is? She is using a language derived from germanic and latin roots, originating a few centuries after the fall of Rome. She is using the modern context of this language. It's the only language on this Earth of the Germanic/Latin combination that is widely used (I believe Flemish is under this combo but I cannot say). I can only understand three languages, beginning to understand a fourth, and she is clearly using one among my knowledge of language. I can't see afro-asatic writings within this article, so it must be English.

prussiaducky Don't be sorry, to be honest, you cannot understand FabFAN's English half the time on this website. She insults everyone openly for no real reason. You layed your points clearly and it was beautifully written, and I can totally see where you are coming from :)

TigerRanma Oh yeah, that's true. Aww, now I'm thinking about my Princess and the Pauper computer game. Well, my answer is still no. Belle didn't look like she had a job.

MadameLee I kind of fixed it so it could be more understandable (but I didn't know where to put puncation so if someone would be so kind?).

MadameLee @prussisaducky thanks I kind of added another comment on youtube pointing out why I thought the trplets were the town lovely laddies and I will see what the guys say tommorrow.

Tygers_Eye I actually got involved with that exact same line of responses to that OP in that video. My username is snarkbait1, and I learned to regret arguing with the pig in that scenario. It didn't accomplish anything and just annoyed the pig. First of all, that guy's an idiot that doesn't understand anything about the historical context except what supports his sexist worldview: that women couldn't do anything but serve their fathers and husbands because that's just the way it was. First of all, during that time period, most people didn't have "jobs" as we understand them today. They didn't all go out to work for some shop or corporation to earn a wage/salary and then spend it on junk they didn't need, which in turn gave junk-sellers money to pay their workers. Belle lives during the pre-Industrial Revolution Europe. During the late 18th century France, most people made money off the land. Most "peasants" were serfs, or farmers that rented and worked the land owned by nobles. They paid a large share of the crops and livestock in taxes and scrounged what little they had left. They also had some specialty jobs needed to run a society, like maids, servants, merchants, shopkeepers, butchers, bakers, blacksmiths, tailors, cobblers, etc. but those were not so common compared to the overall population of serfs and landowners, I guess... Anyway, the Youtube guy's an idiot. [b]During the song "Gaston," the triplets are clearly shown serving drinks in the tavern, so they're tavern wenches. They're probably getting water in the pump outside for the tavern cook to boil later. Far from just fetching water for their daddy.[/b] Anyway, the idea that all women just stayed inside and served their daddies before moving on to serve their husbands was the ideal, but not the reality. Many women didn't marry, couldn't marry, and/or actually did work outside the home. As we see, there are no less than five women (two stout older ones and the triplets) serving drinks at the tavern, and in the castle we see many female staff. Mrs. Potts, Babette, the Wardrobe, etc. Women could work as maids, housekeepers, nurses, wet nurses, cooks, serving women (waitresses), etc. They generally couldn't get more high-paying specialty jobs on their own though (butchers, bakers, blacksmiths, etc.) which is where getting married and sharing in their husbands' profession came in handy. If they were lucky, many unmarried women actually were supported by their brothers or male cousins after their fathers died. Older unmarried women could also take up little professions like midwives, "cunning folk" (or healers presumed to be witches), wet nurses if they had a child of their own, spinsters (or women who literally spun wool for a living), nuns if they lived in a Catholic country, etc. These jobs were not very lucrative though, so they were undesirable. Not impossible to live on, and thus unmarried women were not necessarily doomed, but not ideal either. Part of the point of having kids was to have someone to look after you in your old age.

Tygers_Eye But I digress. The point is most "peasants" didn't have "jobs" as we know it as their job was tending the land, growing/raising food from it, and making enough to a) pay their taxes, b) have enough left over to eat, and c) barter sell leftovers so they could get a more balanced diet. Belle and her father are shown having chickens and goats, so it's possible they rely on the eggs, milk and cheese (and occasional meat) those animals provide. They would probably also need to sell some of it to barter/buy other things like bread and vegetables (if they don't grow their own). [b]Farming and tending to livestock is actually very taxing and time-consuming. That's why "farmer" is considered a legitimate profession and not just a hobby.[/b] Which is why I told the guy in the comments' section that it's possible [b]Belle's job IS to look after the farm. We see her feeding the animals after she turns down Gaston. I also said at another point it's possible Belle only looks after the farm so her father can spend more time tinkering with his inventions, and thus realize his dream of being a world-famous inventor.[/b] If he had to look after the farm and house himself, he'd never have time to invent. I said it's possible the only reason Belle doesn't hop on the nearest wagon out of town and follow her dream of "adventure in the great wide somewhere" is to look after her father. That is, take care of the farm and house so he can follow his dream of inventing. The guy accused Belle of just sitting around relying on her father becoming "a world-famous inventor" instead of making the changes herself, but see above. I still that she just plans to run the farm while Maurice is alive and needs her, but she doesn't plan to do so forever. She works the farm despite finding it boring to support her father's dream, probably knowing her dad won't live forever, or at least will eventually make it so big as a famous inventor that he can hire a housekeeper and thus won't need her anymore, and thus is waiting to seek adventure once she no longer has someone to look after. So, by that logic, I think it's downright responsible of her not to tie herself down with a husband she doesn't love and/or doesn't share her ideals, or have children she would also have to stay at home to support for the rest of her life. Same-age spouses and children are more needy and live way longer than elderly fathers, after all.

MadameLee I view the entire town except maybe the bookeeper. As a highschool and the triplets are like the 'cheerleaders' and Gaston is the 'school's Jock'. Don't know about Belle or the bookkeeper.

MadameLee I made a new artilce on another page about if Gaston could be a lesser nobility. Since all the clues point to it.. http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/gaston/articles/258018/title/gaston-lesser-nobility

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Disney Princesses' Careers

posted by dimitri_

Choosing a career path is a lot più complicated than it looks. I only did this for fun so enjoy!

I would like to thank:
MJ_Fan_4Life007
princecatcher93
MaidofOrleans
Flutey_Girl96
fiina
LibelluleBleu
for their career suggestions on my poll!

Oh my gosh! Have te ever seen anything so wonderful in your entire life?

Ariel: Antiques Store Owner
This was pretty obvious, Ariel loves beautiful things and I mean LOVE. She'll have to major in Social Sciences to manage her store properly but it's nothing she can't handle.

Why? After all, I am sixteen.

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dclairmont's Updated Prettiest Disney Princesses

posted by dclairmont

I made this same lista nine months ago, and thought it was about time to update it! Anyways, I find all of the princesses beautiful, so just because one of your prettiest is low, I still find her extremely beautiful. Well, let's get started!

13. Merida
Previously: n/a

I really don't want to have to put Merida here, but someone had to go here! I absolutely Amore her hair; the color is so warm and rich, and I also Amore her piercing blue eyes, but sadly I just can't put her any higher. If her head was just stretched out a little più I'm sure I'd be able to put her higher, but for now, she's last....

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AllegroGiocoso's preferito Princesses

posted by AllegroGiocoso

Hi everyone! Well, I see others write their lista of preferito princesses so I decide to follow suit and to write my own. It would be fun for me to write this after all, as I think... my lista has changed somewhat in the past month, but it is still basically the same.

9. Tiana

I like all the princesses a lot, but Tiana is my least preferito of the bunch. Tiana has her good points in my opinion da her everlasting dream to open up her restaurant and her motivation to work I find inspiring. But still, she just isn't quite as fun as I would prefer in a princess... a bit too serious for my tastes....

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dclairmont's Ultimate lista of Everything

posted by dclairmont

So I was Leggere through old articles, and I found one da link, in which he does his lists on basically everything. I thought it was really interesting, so I thought "Why not?" and decided to make my list. The main rankings are based on the movies, and then the sub-rankings are for the princess, prince, villain, ect. in the movie. So, let's get started! (Also, I know that a lot of the placings are messed up (as in a couple things have the same placing), but I already spent forever on this articolo so I kind of just let it go *cue singing*)

11. The Little Mermaid

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Queen Elsa~ Let It Go

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We're Talking Kings and Successions -- Chapter One

posted by MacytheStrange

"I’d expect something better from a child of mine!"

Um, so this'll be my secondo ever fanfiction, it'll be mainly Tangled/Frozen/Brave with some other characters thrown in. Be sure not to expect anything to terribly good, I'm not really a good writer. But I write anyway because I like inflicting suffering in the form of making te guys read this drivel.

Chapter One: Severe Disadvantage

She was at a severe disadvantage.

Her pale blond hair, now matted and haven fallen out of it’s usual neat braid, flew behind her as she ran through the woods, stepping on thorns with her bare feet. Her prisoners outfit seemed to be made to constrict movement, a...

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Best animazione in a DP movie (Voted da Fanpop)

posted by princecatcher93

So of the commenti from that Great bacheca countdown.

So of the comments from that Great Wall countdown.

This was amazing drama free countdown. Everyone was happy every single round and were happy with the results. Oh wait I'm sorry, I was talking about my Best Brick in the Great bacheca of China countdown...Here we go

11: The Little Mermaid
I was sad For once to see this film leave so early. And I'll tell te why in two words...The Bubbles. It had amazing animazione secondo Best in it's Era...sadly not everyone else like it that much.
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"The animazione is kind of dull in TLM. Except maybe for some things that pops out But,the other animations for the other Film are better." egyptprincess7 picked...

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Queen Elsa

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How I Wanted Frozen to Be Like (Part Two)

posted by disneygirl7

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Elsa acknowledged the servant with a sharp "Yes." And walked up to her mirror. She gazed into it and saw her reflection. Eleven years had passed since she had been visited from the stranger and gotten her powers. Eleven years since she had first found her sister annoying. Eleven years since she had first gone into isolation.

She gazed into it and saw her reflection.

Their parents having died just three years ago, Elsa found Anna at her door più often than before....

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Snow White's preferito Disney Princess lista

posted by sweetie-94

Decided to do an articolo like this too, I've actually been wanting to do this for a long time, but I thought it was hard to do, well it was hard even now to do this lista because I think Snow White is the type of princess that would get along well with the other princesses, but anyway hope you'll like this articolo :)

10. Merida

If we're basing it on Merida's personality in the end of the movie she would be placed slightly higher on this lista since she's più like Snow White at that point, but now I based it on her personality during most of the time in the movie and that is what puts her...

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Frozen Review

posted by maryksand

Music

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Let me introduce myself

posted by FabulousDisney

Hi, I'm FabulousDisney. I just signed up a minuto ago. te can call me Avery if te want.

Here is the information te need to know about me.

I'm eighteen, I Amore Ribelle - The Brave and the little mermaid. I'm tall and a brunette. I look a lot like Belle and act very much like her too.
I know THEDisneyFreak, o as I like to call her, Jennifer, in real life. She's one of my friends.

My ultimate lista of everything:

Movie: Ribelle - The Brave
Princess: Ariel and Merida
Sidekick: pascal

How most people describe me: Smart, DisneyCray, Pretty (I think not) and kind. I try to be as kind as I can and I will hope I can start friendship on here.

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Best Disney Princess Artists

posted by Annabethandco

One of my favourite thing about the Disney Princess Franchise is the amount of beautiful fan art that is inspired because of it. I decided to create this articolo so I could share some of my favourite artists.

Amy Mebberson - I doubt anybody HASN'T heard of pocket princesses, but just in case the link is below. Her work is incredible!
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Morloth88 - Morloth's art isn't the most accurate, but her Disney School comics are amazing. For those of te complaining about Disney girls having their personality changed in high school AUs, I think you'll find Morloths art più than satisfactory.
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Sonne...

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My lista of The Best Disney Princess animazione

posted by KataraLover

Okay I noticed a countdown on this club and the results are in my opinion insulting to Disney. I'm not trying to offend anyone, especially the one holding the countdown, but I mean come on, the computed animated films didn't even leave yet. Plus I think people have a different idea of animazione than I do because when I think of animazione I mostly think about the actual animazione itself, not the drawings and consistency, thought that's part of it. But the big part is the colors, the brightness and darkness, the shadowing, and the effects. Now I'm going to separate the computer animated films...

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preferito DP Villain Canto Voice Countdown Results (Voted da Fanpop)

posted by princecatcher93

Sing to friend on other side!

We talk about the Princes and the Princesses but we never talk about how the villains sang because well out of the 12 films only 7 sing and I only counted 6 because Frozen just came out and not everyone has seen the movie o own the soundtrack.

6: Jafar
He Lost this sondaggio da a landslide in fact te could tell that it was rigged for the others because well Jafar stunk at Canto he only had one big song and I don't think anyone wants to remember it for that long.
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My preferito Disney Princess Hairstyles Countdown-Part 5 10-1

posted by bluerose777

10. gelsomino hight pony tail
9. Belle pony tail with green bow
8. Moana loose
7. Belle loose
6.Rapunzel hair long with tiara
5. Belle with cape
4. Aurora with black ribbon
3. Aurora with crown
2. Belle ball updo
1. gelsomino hair loose but styled

The Little Mermaid (2023 Remake) Film Review

posted by whatsupbugs

The Little Mermaid is a 2023 live-action film that's a remake of 1989's Little Mermaid animated film. Live-action Disney remakes have gotten a lot of mixed reception. They tend to make lots of money, but they also tend to get mixed reviews. When it comes to the remakes, I've enjoyed a fair number of them. I didn't care for some of them, such as Aladdin, Lady and The Tramp and Mulan. However, there have been some remakes that I enjoyed, such as Cinderella, Dumbo and both Maleficent films. Also, the live-action Disney Alice in Wonderland films are two of my preferito films.

Mermaids are something...