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As asteriamalfoy recently reported on the club wall, it appears that Moana will soon become the newest member of the Disney Princess lineup. The club's reception to the news is a mixed bag, which is the latest example of how the general fanpop opinion (namely, this club's opinion) doesn't always match that of the internet. It's interesting why that is, and I will attempt to find the reason here.

Before going forward, be aware that everything that I consider an "opinion" of fanpop and/or the internet is a generalization. True, there are some users on both this website and the rest of the worldwide web who are in their respective minorities. This is merely a breakdown of how I see it and my attempt to get to the root of the issue -- why is Moana beloved in some places, but not in others? Time to find out.

The Difference of Opinion
I find that on Youtube, Disney-related sites (such as "Oh My Disney"), and other sites (Buzzfeed and the like), Moana is a well-liked character. The common reasons people like her from what I've seen are:

• She's responsible; even though she wants to explore the ocean, she does what's right and chooses to lead her people. And she enjoys it, too!
• She's self-reliant; she doesn't need to be constantly saved, and she can save the giorno pretty much on her own.
• On a related note, she "doesn't need a man."
• On a separate related note, she's quick-thinking and resourceful, o what some people call "badass."
• She doesn't have the traditional look of a Disney Princess, i.e. no formal toga, abito and different body type. This gives her a new and perhaps più realistic look.
• She renounces the princess name.



Then te check out the DP club on Fanpop, and te find that generally, Moana is not particularly loved, for reasons including:

• She has little to no flaws.
• She doesn't have much of a personality.
• She's just a mish-mash of the princesses who came before her -- nothing new.
• She renounces the princess name.

That's quite a contrast in opinion, and maybe a little surprising that a place dedicated to the DPs generally doesn't take too kindly to her. I think I've discovered why this contrast exists, though.

The fonte of the Difference
Perhaps this contrast is because people that te find elsewhere on the internet have a different set of character traits/qualities that they value than the ones on this club. From what I understand, the general internet crowd values Disney Princesses and heroines who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are strong and can work independently
• Are determined and don't give up
• Are admirable

On this club, I think we have a different set of values for DPs. We like those who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are realistic and/or relatable
• Stand for something positive regarding princess-hood, femininity, etc. without feeling forced o too "in your face"
• Respect the DP franchise

Regarding the first bullet point -- I believe both sides like it when a princess/heroine adds something to the lineup, but it is seen in different ways. The internet seems to like how Moana invokes new positive qualities such as the desire and willingness to lead, which, let's be honest, hasn't been done with a DP before, at least not explicitly. I theorize that users on this club, including myself, consider all of the positive qualities of the character and how those stack up against the existing DPs, not just the new ones. For example, action-packed (Rapunzel), self-doubt (Pocahontas, Mulan), determined (Ariel), outspoken (Merida), and funny (Rapunzel, Anna) are all traits that we've seen in other princesses and heroines. The number of familiar traits can make the actual new traits seem like not enough.

However, I think the above argument is only a tiny part of why the fanpop opinion is più critical. The remaining bullet points are key. As stated, Moana does mostra a desire and willingness to lead her people, which would fit the desired element of saying something positive about princess-hood (er, leader-hood, o how about just leadership). Is it in your face? I'm going to lean towards "no," but -- now I'm going to bring my own opinion into the mix -- it's one of the reasons I have difficulty latching onto her character. Despite Moana having this very positive quality going for her, she doesn't feel realistic to me. Her turn-around from wanting to sail the seas to being perfectly content staying and leading is just too sudden. With few flaws to balance it out, she comes across as a little too perfect to me. Perhaps this lack of realism and relatability is what others dislike, too.

It's often detto that a strong character is one who works through their flaws; ergo, a strong female character is one who works through her flaws. Moana might have flaws, but maybe they don't get the focus they need to make us think, "Oh yeah, she overcame that flaw, achieved her goals, and learned something from this adventure." If that's the case, then the positive femininity thing doesn't really work. It's almost too positive, o impossibly positive. We need something più convincing if the takeaway is that a girl/lady/woman can achieve great things.



The biggest issue that Fanpoppers have with Moana comes from this line: "First off, I'm not a princess. I'm the daughter of the chief." This statement has not been well-received because for some, it implies that Moana is disrespecting the Disney Princess name. I shared that opinion too at one point. It may just be Disney poking fun at itself, but it can rub fan the wrong way. If this character who seemingly fits the DP mold can't appreciate the leading ladies who came before her...well, how the heck are we supposed to like her? Contrast this with the general internet's opinion, where people take it to mean that Moana doesn't have to be bogged down da the titolo of princess; one can be a strong character without having a royal titolo o other high status. Or, maybe people like it because it detaches her from the princess stereotype that they can't stand.

The più I think about it, the più I think that line is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it can be perceived as, "Oh yeah, te don't need to be a princess to save the giorno o to be someone important o worthwhile." On the other hand, one can perceive it as Moana being better than a princess, which can be taken as "Oh, te think you're better than the Disney Princesses, is that right?" o "Yeah, the princess titolo is just that -- a title. Not all heroines have to be princesses." Well, maybe there's a better message here. Instead of having your character say they're not a princess, why not embrace their princess-ness (or the equivalent -- daughter of a chief would be an equivalent), and then mostra us that detto character is a good, strong character? You'd be broadening your own definition of princesses to mean any good-natured, strong-willed female, which is exactly what the DP franchise is trying to do now with their recente video and slogan. Then, all of the princesses can be seen in a new and positive light.



Conclusions
Not to be too redundant, but I do believe that Moana's reception here versus on the rest of the internet boils down to what people want and like to see in Disney heroines, as well as how they interpret certain aspects of the character (or lines of dialogue, as discussed above). I think this is also the reason why fan can have such opposing visualizzazioni on other characters, like Ariel o Elsa. It can also be why some characters are sometimes seen favorably here, like the early princesses, but not much elsewhere. It all has to do with the specific set of traits we value. Moana's prospective introduction to the lineup brought this...for lack of a better term, "issue," to the spotlight, for me at least. Perhaps discussions like these will change some perceptions of characters for the better, even if just slightly, if people recognize the exact qualities that are being valued da other fans.
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Well, I managed to be able to see the Broadway mostra of The Little Mermaid, something I’ve dreamed of experiencing since the moment I heard about the Broadway mostra years ago. Most of te know that Disney’s The Little Mermaid is both my preferito Disney movie and one of my preferito Film of ALL TIME, so this was MAJOR for me! I also was lucky enough to see the original Broadway mostra on youtube, starring Sierra Boggess as Ariel herself, that mostra was amazing with many great new songs, capturing the characters I loved so much while giving them a new spin, and clever writing.

However, the show...
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 Disney Amore songs.
Disney love songs.
Hi guys, since I Amore traveling, I would like to write down some nice cities on which the Disney Princess and their respective princes will fall in Amore with since Valentine's giorno is coming soon.

1. Manchester, England, UK

Snow White and Prince Ferdinand will definitely Amore this city, it is very country-oriented and Snow White will consider this as her secondo home!

2. Milan, Italy

Since France is a neighbour to Italy, Cenerentola will carry her duties with Prince Kit da making her first official state visit there. They will definitely Amore this city even più than Paris.

3. Prague, Czech Republic...
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 No one shows off his hairy chest like Gaston!
No one shows off his hairy chest like Gaston!
Hi guys, I know that the titolo is very awkward but I will definitely write my own version on how Beauty and the Beast should have ended!

Gaston Gets Turn Into A Beast

This will happen during the climatic battle between the beast and Gaston, I would imagine that the Enchantress will magically appear and turn Gaston into a beast and Prince Adam back into human right in front of Belle!

The Magic Mirror

Since Belle have brought back the magic mirror, it could magically float in the air and review the Beast's true form in front of the mob, Gaston and Belle. Prompting the mob to disband and Gaston ultimately goes to the castello alone to fulfill his deadly mission!

What Do te Think?

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 Lovely shot!
Lovely shot!
Hello everyone! Okay maybe this "favorite princess lista article" sounds too mainstream on this club. But as I find I rarely create any preferito lista articolo unlike most of users here, I decide to write one.

Happy reading ^.^

Bottom 3

11. Jasmine



Aladdin is one of the interesting Disney prince, but the same thing not happen with Jasmine. Nothing special with her. During the movie I just saw her as a princess who was forced to marriage under the law. Nothing più than that. What I like from her is only how generous and outspoken she is. Unless for me, she is lack of development, probably because...
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Thank te to everyone who participated in this countdown! I had lots of fun organizing this, and I hope te had fun voting and commenting. :)

11. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs

Walt's first full length animated film was a technological masterpiece during its time, but unfortunately it doesn't hold up so well 80 years later. fan didn't like how stiff the characters look o how inconsistent the animazione is.

The animazione looks odd and stiff, the colori are dull, and not much attractive as others have. ~Sparklefairy375
I agree with MaidofOrleans & Sparklefairy375. For the time it was made in,...
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 We wish te a Merry Christmas!
We wish you a Merry Christmas!
So, imagine if all of the princesses gather together on Natale Eve and here are the lists of famous carols o any songs that are Natale related from famous Natale films.

1. Believe (The Polar Express)

I absolutely adore this song from the film, it was originally sung da Josh Groban but was later covered da Jackie Evancho. The lyrics has a message about believing during Natale especially.

2. As Long as There's Natale (Beauty and the Beast: The Come d’incanto Christmas)

Since this is Belle's song, the other princesses can unisciti in as the chorus o they could 'echo' her words when she sings...
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Hello guys!! To those who recognize me, I hope you're all doing well! I've been busy with college apps and life in general, but I've been well! To those who don't, nice to meet you! I used to frequent this site a couple years ago. :) Anyway I'm just going to go straight into the review! There won't be any large plot type spoilers, but if te want to go in knowing absolutely nothing, I would recommend not reading!

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I just got home from seeing this beautiful film and I need to let out all my feelings somewhere, but hopefully this will be somewhat coherent and not come across as a giant rant...
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Now a lot of te are probably thinking, 'bluethunder25 Gothel can't be redeemed because first of all, she was 'too evil,' and two, she died from old aging and turned to dust.

Well as te know, I've stated in precedente articoli that I don't feel Gothel is entirely evil. As for the secondo one, if Gothel did in fact turn to dust, then I say, that means she has a good chance to come back to life which also means she has a good chance of a redemption. How? Allow me to explain.

Now first of all, before te all freak out, no, Gothel's redemption won't be overnight, in fact, for Gothel's redemption arc,...
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 Princess of Bohemia o Russia? te decide!
Princess of Bohemia or Russia? You decide!
Alright, since I had done a Hispanic princess, here is how a Slavic princess will look like.

1. Natalie Glebova (Miss Universe 2005, Canada)

A Canadian of Russian origins, she has the looks for a typical Slavic princess if Disney were to make a Russian princess.

2. Anna Buturlina (Elsa's and Tiana's Russian Canto Voice)

The secondo choice for a Russian princess, she also did the Canto voice for Princess Tiana as well as Elsa!

3. Ksenia Sukhinova (Miss World 2008, Russia)

Another Russian beauty who won Miss World 2008 in South Africa, In fact, Natalie is the runner-up to her. Especially their...
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With Disney's Moana coming up, I'm so pumped up for più princess stuff. It inspired me to make an articolo about my preferito songs of all the movies. And be reminded, I Amore all the songs; these are just my superiore, in alto favorite. Enjoy! xx

5. Tale As Old As Time



Most people would probably go for "Something There," but, to be honest, this song is so beautiful. When I first watched it, I could feel the chemistry between Belle and the Beast and it literally made me so happy. The background is beautiful, the dancing is so precious, and Angela Lansbury's voice is perfect for this part. I would've cried,...
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