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Principesse Disney Most Feminist DP Movie Countdown! giorno 6: Pick the LEAST Feminist! (Elimination based on comments)
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Rapunzel - L'intreccio della torre
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Pocahontas
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Mulan
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9. Aladdin
8. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
7. Princess and the Frog
6. The Little Mermaid
5. Sleeping Beauty
4. Beauty and the Beast
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While Mulan is a very good character, her saving China is not feminist. Plus the rest of the movie and the majority of its characters are all basically promoting gender inequality, from the highly sexists songs, "Honour To Us All" and "A Girl Worth Fighting For," to the sexist attitudes from many of the characters. Mulan should leave for similar reasons PatF left.
Also, Swanpride I disagree with you about Pocahontas. She becomes accepted as a wise woman because she diplomatically prevented an ensuing bloodbath between between the Natives and the settlers, not because she gives up her love. Not only that, but she made them realize how rash and irrational both sides were acting due to their ignorance and hatred. :)
I'd also like to point out that Pocahontas wasn't the only female character that was portrayed as wise and admirable in the film. Grandmother Willow shared the same open minded thoughts as she did, and she was also the only other entity besides John that she could truly confide in. Another person is Pocahontas' deceased mother, whose spirit is represented symbolically by the wind and colored leaves. Chief Powhatan reveals that her mother was the person that everyone sought out for advice when she was alive. Notice how her spirit guides Pocahontas and helps her make decisions when she isn't sure of herself.
Also, what did the settlers do to the Natives later on? Do you mean in the film or in history? Because Pocahontas the film doesn't follow history, and it wasn't the movie's intention to be historically accurate either. Plus, a bloodbath wouldn't have been the better option because it goes against the themes and messages that the film was trying to convey. Besides, Pocahontas wasn't a vindictive or vengeful person either, and she's sort of a pacifist. She shows that you don't need to engage in war to get a point across, which in my opinion shows that she is a person of strong character. It seemed that she didn't subscribe to the notion of "an eye for an eye" and is evidenced by the fact that she forgave Thomas.
Regarding Tangled, I only thought that in comparison to Mulan and Pocahontas it felt less feminist. One of the main themes about Mulan is how women should have the same value as men. The movie addresses sexism directly, and shows that Mulan, who even though is a woman, played an imperative part in saving her country. She gained respect and changed the perceptions of the other character's views about women as well. Moreover, even though Pocahontas doesn't directly touch upon sexism since that wasn't the theme of the film, Pocahontas does make a big difference for the impending conflict for the reasons that I stated in above and in my previous comments.
I'd like to add that the reason why she couldn't go with John to England is because she was the peace maker between the two sides, and the two sides still had a lot to learn about each other as you can see by the way they still held on to their weapons and weren't interacting. If she went with John and left Virginia, who knows what would have happened between the Natives and the settlers? Since they couldn't fully communicate with one another, there could have been a tragic event because of a misunderstanding. Pocahontas would have felt very guilty if that happened, so she had to make a painful choice and give up her lover. That to me shows that she did indeed think about the consequences and wasn't selfish. She was very much in love with John, and that shows in the song If I Never Knew You, so giving up someone who meant so much to her for the sake of the situation was a testament to how selfless she became in my opinion.
The war they had with the Messawomecks wasn't because of prejudice. Also, in this movie the main reason why the Natives and the settlers wanted to annihilate each other is because they were prejudiced and scared of one another . Throughout the movie, both sides make derogatory comments about the other, and made the other seem blood thirsty. For example, when John tries to convince the settlers that they're not savages, the settlers seem genuinely interested in learning about them but then Ratcliffe interrupts and says "they don't want to feed us you ninnies, they want to kill us. All of us!" This made the settlers scared and reluctant to actually get to know the Natives. You have to keep in mind, that in this movie this was the first time the Native Americans had ever seen English people and vice versa, so they didn't know anything about each other and every time they could have learned more about each other, it was hindered by their fear. That also ties in to one of the movie's themes, which is to know someone before you judge them.
Furthermore, I don't understand when you say that her decision at the end was motivated by "this man or the other." Could you elaborate what you mean by that? Moreover, in all honesty neither Pocahontas or Tangled are truly feminist films. Mulan is the only one that is, since that is after all the primary focus of the film and is even the only one that addresses or references gender inequality.
"Just around the riverbend" annoys me a little bit, because it basically says that Pocontas wants something different (without ever specifying what), but even though she feels that way, she never undertakes any steps to realize this dream.
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