I always heard peaple talking about brave that they never recognized the other great Disney princess
Films not saying that princess and the frog isint overatted it is but brave has gotten way out of hand every one is like she's the best becuase she never married the prince
Movies like pocahonats,Snow White and the seven dwarfs,sleeping beauty,mulan and maybe Aladdin weren't recognized

I don't see how Brave is overrated. Not many people that like or put the movie as their favorite, though.

Well, Mermaid is sort of. But I still like it.

i don't like much this princess

I really don't think any of them are overrated. Some are underrated/underappreciated, especially the old ones. I feel like the movies that are very popular that people call overrated are just genuinely adored.

Why on earth did this thing win Best Animated Feature at the Oscars?

@Hatelarxene: Because it's Pixar.

Like Quishy said, I fail to see how any of these movies are overrated. Perhaps individual princesses are ( maybe because of their fanbases) but not the actual movies themselves. And the movies from the Classical era are certainly not overrated.

Also, Brave isn't overrated, because people don't even talk about it anymore, like they still do with Frozen and Moana. The Little Mermaid isn't overrated, because there are more fans of Beauty and the Beast than there are fans of The Little Mermaid. That's a Facebook fact.

@hatelarxene: Brave won that year at the Oscars, because of the 3D technology that made Merida's curly hair. And that's...yup, about it. I personally wanted Wreck-it Ralph to win that year (2012).

so, so, so boring.
the songs are especially dull for a renaissance movie. the characters are unmemorable and trope-y (lol die mushu); imo the only interesting/innovative thing is the use of traditional asian art techniques like white space.

pocahontas and brave too tho.
brave only won because the academy blindly eats up everything pixar craps out. it was an alright movie but geez.

"The Little Mermaid isn't overrated, because there are more fans of Beauty and the Beast than there are fans of The Little Mermaid. That's a Facebook fact."

what
that's...not what overrated means. something doesn't have to be the most popular to get praise it doesn't deserve.

I love mulan

Honestly it's got just as many plot holes as Frozen but no one ever talks about them.

@Unholynoise: You must live in another universe from the rest of us. Contrary to what you think, Mulan isn't overrated. She just has fans who remember her and like her. Clearly you're not one of them. lol.

Frozen is what we think of when we say overrated.

And "something doesn't have to be the most popular to get praise it doesn't deserve." ^Your opinion, but not based on facts.

@wavesurf here's a couple definitions of "overrated," because I'm not sure you know what it means?

From Wiktionary: "Given an undue amount of credit for quality or merit in a field; not necessarily related to popularity."

From dictionary.com: "to rate or appraise too highly; overestimate"

From Oxford English dictionary: "Have a higher opinion of (someone or something) than is deserved."

As these definitions show, "overrated" doesn't have to do with something's popularity relative to other things' popularity, but rather the praise it receives relative to its actual quality. Just because TLM isn't as highly praised as BatB doesn't mean it can't be overrated (although I agree that it's not overrated, I think it's perfectly rated).

@Maidoforleans: The quality of Frozen's screenplay as written by Jennifer Lee was FULL of PLOTHOLES, and whole segments didn't make sense at all. So, yup, I DO KNOW what I mean when I say overrated.

And I didn't say B&TB was overrated because of plottholes--- it has one or two--- not seven or nine like Frozen does.

TLM is the movie people love to "bash," while B&TB gets praised for being "the better flick." But that doesn't mean either one is overrated due to fandom, or because the praise isn't exactly earned.

@wavesurf I'm sorry, I'm confused. Maybe I didn't word my previous comment well? I wasn't talking about plotholes. I was addressing the comment you made: "The Little Mermaid isn't overrated, because there are more fans of Beauty and the Beast than there are fans of The Little Mermaid." This comment implies that you feel TLM isn't overrated because BatB is more popular. I was trying to say that this isn't the case, because what determines whether or not a film is overrated has nothing to do with how popular other films are.

^All right. Suppose you are right. What then? How can TLM, which is not NEARLY as popular as B&TB, be overrated?

Go on, explain that one. Was the quality of TLM worse than B&TB? Because, I don't think so . Not one bit.

@wavesurf, as I stated in my previous comment, I don't think TLM is overrated. I think it's perfectly rated. Again, I'm just trying to say that what determines whether or not a film is overrated has nothing to do with how popular other films are.

^Actually, the Webster and other dictionaries both say: quality and popularity ( effusive praise) determine something being "overrated."

In the case of TLM, this movie never outshone B&TB, nor was it overexposed like Frozen. Therefore, TLM isn't overrated. And my statement has truth to it.

@wavesurf I'm not saying a film's popularity has nothing to do with whether or not it's overrated. Obviously that is a major factor in a film being overrated. What I'm saying is that a film's popularity relative to other films has nothing to do with whether or not it's overrated.

Here's an example: I think that Aladdin is a bit overrated, and I think that Mulan is underrated. I think Aladdin is overrated because it was massively popular at the time of its release, and still is today. I think that Mulan is underrated because, even at the time of its release, it wasn't very popular even though it's artistically a great film, and it still tends to be forgotten today. But I do not think that Mulan is underrated because Aladdin is more popular than it, which is what you were saying about TLM and BatB.

^ Ok. Now I see where you are coming from. Well, I do remember being 9 years old, and hearing how much hype there was for B&TB compared to TLM. I saw B&TB in the theater when it was first released ( cartoon).

I can tell you, that B&TB was rated "more highly" than TLM ( it got a best picture nod). It was certainly advertised when it was released as being "better," and TLM was put down as being passe.

So, yes, I do consider B&TB a tad bit more overrated than TLM. But I am dating myself, because I was definitely alive and remember it all.

Brave won an Oscar because the Oscar voters fully admit that
they don't watch animated films. So they just vote for whatever
they've seen. Frankly I think the committee should be required
to watch all the films nominated. This happens with the shorts too.
I only voted for princess and the frog as relative to fanpop where
I think it's relatively popular and widely defended. I find it to be convoluted.

"@Unholynoise: You must live in another universe from the rest of us. Contrary to what you think, Mulan isn't overrated. She just has fans who remember her and like her. Clearly you're not one of them. lol."

it's almost like overrated-ness is all about many other people getting pumped up over something that i feel isn't worth it, and it's also like you have no self-awareness and you just made my point for me lmao

can i ask why you feel so threatened by people who don't worship your faves? honestly wavesurf, who hurt you?

I honestly hate the terms overrated and underrated because
they don't make any sense - frozen is widely popular and loved, therefore it's rated exactly as it should be(in terrms of popularity). Is it a perfect film? No, not even close. But working at Disney I see the wild love for Frozen. I hope this makes sense lol. I don't think overrated/underrated has anything to do with how good a film is. Like yeah, wreck it Ralph is probably objectively a better made movie than frozen but it didn't appeal to the masses as much (to be clear, I adore wreck it ralph). So all films are "rated" fairly IMO

idk i think it's fair/sensible to talk about a movie's reception relative to how well-made it is. it's frustrating that lots of movies that deserve more recognition for pushing the envelope get overlooked while many coast by on brand recognition (how well would frozen do, what kind of reception would it get, if disney hadn't made it? there's no way brave would've won best animated movie if like...dreamworks had made it or something) even though they're nothing special. overratedness and underratedness are legitimate concepts, it's just that they get misapplied a lot, esp when people feel they need an intellectual reason for just straight up not liking something.

"Idk i think it's fair/sensible to talk about a movie's reception relative to how well-made it is. " I absolutely agree with this.
Ive said so too, that many animated shorts and films have won simply because those were the only ones the academy have seen. I think I taken out critical response when looking at a films popularity because there is a big difference between critic praise and audience praise. Like, from what I recall the star Wars films are all huge hits but some of them didn't get great critical responses. Or I think wreck it Ralph is a smartly made film but it didn't resonate with audiences as well as frozen. Overrated/underrated is very subjective which is why I hate the term. You really can't use it factually.
Another way I see the term misused is on viewership. For example I'll see people call Atlantis or Treasure Planet underrated just because they are more forgotten when in reality they arent underrated- those films have some great concepts but aren't very well executed (and this is coming from someone whose favorite Disney movie is treasure planet)
Also why I hate "which Disney princess is the most overrated" Because who am I to decide which princess should be loved less? It's all subjective.

There was just something about this one that I didn’t like as much as the others. I feel like everyone praises Rapunzel for being the best which I think she did nothing special. I really don’t care for the movie or anything about except for Mother Gothel. I could never really jump on Tangled train.

"Overrated/underrated is very subjective which is why I hate the term. You really can't use it factually."

...except you can. the academy lending more weight to movies they have seen vs those they haven't is basically overratedness in action - it's something getting disproportional recognition relative to other similar things, especially when those other things are of better quality, due to factors that have nothing to do with how good the movie is (e.g. being made by a certain studio, someone being too lazy to watch other movies).

do "overrated" and "underrated" get thrown around a lot more than they actually need to be? for sure. but that doesn't mean there aren't situations where they legitimately describe what's happening. idk i think we're gonna have to agree to disagree here.

Yeah, I definitely don't agree that the academy viewing something more makes it overrated especially if what they saw was good. Just makes them biased or ignorant. Agree to disagree.
In the context which overrated and underrated get most often used, those words are definitely misapplied.

@Unholynoise: Throwing out insults about my intelligence again? Super. That really makes your case for dumping on Mulan and holding TPATF in high esteem.

Who hurt me? Ha. The question really is, who hurt you? And why are you so pissed off with everything, that you can only diss other people and their likes/dislikes?

Aladdin gets a lot of hype, and while I enjoy it, I don't think it's fantastic or anything.

I don't get why it is THAT popular. It's an excellent movie but not very impressive by Disney Renessaince standarts to me.

"@Unholynoise: Throwing out insults about my intelligence again? Super. That really makes your case for dumping on Mulan and holding TPATF in high esteem."

lol k.

are you like...seriously not aware that people can actually see the other comments you made on this thread? you decided to @ me - even though nothing in my initial comment was to or about you - because you seem to be completely incapable of taking any sort of negative commentary about your waifus mulan and ariel, or the films they're in, as anything other than a personal attack. again: why are you like this?

weird how insults don't bother you when you're the one handing them out.
wait, did i say weird? i meant typical.

^You are very angry person. There is nothing I can do about that. You took what I said about B&TB and TLM ( out of my own post, mind you), and then turned it all into another pointless argument about how "unfair" I am. You did that for all on this thread to see. Are you happy now? Your above posts in this thread completely explain your continual obsession with bullying me.

I can't help you at all. I can only ignore your provocations and your insults. So I will ignore you.

This.

Mulan is not boring or overrated, @UnholyHoise.