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Just a domanda to do with Snape's memory...

In OOTP - when Harry looks into Snape's memories in the pensieve during Occlumency, Lily sticks up for Snape but Snape tells her he doesn't need help from a mudblood. But if Snape had 'always' loved her then surely he wouldn't have dismissed her like this. o is this just a case of making fun of the person te fancy? What do te reckon?
 saz19126 posted più di un anno fa
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karenmiller1972 said:
I agree with BH and LN.

You're outside, reading, when te hear the voices of a group of kids that give te nightmares and te get up to leave. But not soon enough, they catch te and this time they decide to be even worse, instead of just being hurtful, they embarrass te in front of the whole school, in such a way that te know everyone, in every house will be talking about it.

Then te hear Lily, the girl you've been thinking about lately mostra up, and te can hear the slight humor in her voice, even asshe's spending so much time trying to talk her house members into letting te down.

And you're finally let down, and Lily is still talking with James and her house members, not coming to your side, not fighting them, and it only points out the very thing te were worried about happening when Lily first got sorted into her house, she was on their side, with them.

When she finally deigns to notice you, all that emotion bursts forth. And te rage at her, because betrayal da those te love, is so much worse than that of people that te don't know.

And, because of their past relationship, it was harder to forgive that one moment that exploded between them.

Severus Snape grew older, and began to try and atone for his mistakes. I hope, that if Lily had survived, that she would have attained enough maturity to accept his atonement, and maybe made a little atonement of her own.
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Best answer ! Really ! te detto it all
LadyNottingham posted più di un anno fa
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100% agreenemt, karen. Well said.
BlackHound posted più di un anno fa
BlackHound said:
If James Potter had not put him in that situation, he would never have called Lily a mudblood. Think about it...

You're a boy, you're being publicly humiliated yet again da your most hated enemy, and you're saved da a GIRL. That's just as bad as what your enemy is doing to you, it just compounds the humiliation.

And Lily shot right back at him with a biting insult of her own! Funny how no one seems to remember that...
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Yes but she had been offended first so i think she had every right to return the insult - and we don't know that Lily ever liked Snape as anything più as a friend anyway - but I can see your point about his feelings of being saved da a girl so thanks :)
saz19126 posted più di un anno fa
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You're welcome. ;) Hey, I was just illustrating the fact that Lily got a shot in too, I certainly wasn't attacking her. JKR has stated that Lily's feelings for Severus might well have become romantic had it not been for his Amore of the Dark Arts.
BlackHound posted più di un anno fa
Sallymagi said:
I think it would be più humiliating if he was helped da a girl. He would like to prove that he was better than James, and Lily doesn't quite help, da trying to help him.
And 'mudblood' was obviously the first bad thing he could think of.
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LadyNottingham said:
I agree with what BlackHound said. I would add this extra point :

The scene must have been witnessed da other students, some of them from Slytherin. Severus tried to play it the pure-blood (while he's only a half-blood), he was already treading a fine line in this regard. His friendship with Lily must have already looked suspicious in Slytherin. He did not wish to look even più Muggle-friendly than he was already da mostrare some respect to her in public. He had to play it the "racist pureblood" to stand a chance in front of Slytherin later. Not an easy situation to find oneself between a rock and a hard place. Poor Severus...
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Exactly, LN.
BlackHound posted più di un anno fa
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Yes, hence his insulting her, added to the fact te pointed out : being helped da a girl in an already humiliating situation. It took the best of him, I guess.
LadyNottingham posted più di un anno fa
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When te feel betrayed, especially da someone te care about, itsso much worse, and te tend to lash out first.....or most people do.
karenmiller1972 posted più di un anno fa
cunha27 said:
I think he lashed out at her because he had been attacked and was being publicly humiliated da his worst enemy and the one and only friend he had's first reaction was to start to laugh at him. Harry himself noticed that Lily looked like she was about to laugh before she caught herself and started telling James off. And on superiore, in alto of that while Snape was hanging upside down, exposed to everyone, James and Lily were basically arguing as to why she wouldn't go out with James. Snape would have been feeling scared, humiliated and betrayed da Lily when he lashed out at her.
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