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Could Trump actually win the presidency?

Please Americans, tell me it isn't so. Seeing the amount of support he has on American news sites has the rest of the world a little worried... are these commenters part of the political fringe? o is support for his presidency bid actually mainstream? What's the situation over there in the US of A.

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bri-marie said:
Technically, any of the candidates could actually win.

Realistically, no, he's not. How it works is that there are two big parties in the running: the Democrats and the Republicans, and each party will elect 1 candidate to run for president, and then America voti for one of those two.*

Trump probably is not even going to get the Rebublican nomination (link). Furthermore, most people aren't actually polling right now (and really won't even be paying much attention to the campaigns until successivo year), so Trump doesn't have as much support as it looks like he does. (link)

The reason it looks like Trump has a lot of support is because he is a master at hitting the buzzwords for the hardcore right wing conservatives (and those are the people who are polling). So the right-wing news outlets cover him because he's saying what they want to hear, and the rest pick him up because what he's saying is so off the wall, they have to cover it.
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*it's actually a lot più complicated than that, but that's the general bare-bones gist of it.
bri-marie posted più di un anno fa
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Also as New Hampshire further proves my point with an articolo about voters being torn between Sanders (socialist democrat) and Trump (NY 'conservative'). If it was the hardcore right wing conservatives that made up the majority of Trump's base then he and Sanders wouldnt be in competition for the same voters: link
audreygrace412 posted più di un anno fa
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Only 31% of Trump supporters identify as "very conservative" falling under your "hardcore right wing conservative" claim which means 69% of Trump Supporters do NOT identify as "very conservative". My sources are CNN and the bacheca strada, via Journal which are highly respected in America and much più moderate than most news outlets therefore less biased: link
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candylover246 said:
Oh God, I hope not! >.<
That would just destroy the entire country!
I think the reason he has a lot support is because he is so... controversial. He causes a lot of commotion with everything he says o does. Some think he'd make a "strong" leader, but he won't. He's just spitting out first-grade insults to anyone who doesn't agree with him o sees as a threat. People are so... stupid. The reason why I am so against him becoming president is not much because he's racist, o insults everyone, o "evil", but because he's a coward. I'd much rather live under dictatorship than live under a cowardly president.
I shall not mention his name. >.>

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"Destroy the whole country" and screw up the world with it, lel. That is your burden, American voters- your political choices affect the rest of the world. At least PM Tony Abbott only ruined my OWN country xD lol "first-grade insults" is the only thing we seem to hear from Trump, apart from the few racist policies he's put out to make a media kerfuffle, like forcing the Mexicans build a fence, o tracking every Muslim in the country.
ThePrincesTale posted più di un anno fa
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candylover246, I wouldn’t say te caused a controversy o at least I don’t see one here. It looks to me like we are just debating this issue and I am proud to say respectfully, in my opinion. If anyone disagrees then I apologize because I am certainly only trying to have a respectful dibattito here and not trying to insult anyone here and apologize if I had as I sincerely don’t mean to. To answer your domanda yes I am Trump supporter because I think of all of the people running, he is the best for the job. It’s a shame that te are so willing to judge me before te get to understand me and I find it incredibly ironic that the same people who accuse Trump of being so bigoted are reacting worse than him da being so bigoted towards his followers. If te think there is such a problem with Trump supporters, then perhaps te should step outside of your comfort zone just enough to actually hear one out and ask about the things that bother te so te might actually understand them otherwise I don’t see what your real problem with Trump is if te are willing to do the same things that te think he does? Do te not see that as completely hypocritical because it certainly is based on the definition?
audreygrace412 posted più di un anno fa
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ThePrincesTale, I don’t think your commenti come across as an attack at all. I understand your concern and your position and I hope that te don’t find my commenti in response to be disrespectful in any way either. My husband and I do this all the time and sometimes in the end I realize that I was wrong and he helped me see things that I didn’t see and other times he realizes he was più wrong and I helped him see things that he didn’t see. I think this has been a healthy dibattito between us, in my opinion, but please correct me if te think I am wrong. te certainly haven’t insulted me for my opinion and I respect that so thank te for that.
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audreygrace412 said:
Yes, I think it's possible that he could actually win the presidency, especially considering his strong numbers in the sondaggi and large amount of support with Americans he seems to have, despite the mainstream media being più against him for his controversial remarks, especially since he initially announced he was running.

Ironically, the mainstream media is più against him than the American population is and it's very likely that he has più support than reported. This is a possibility because A) Mainstream media is largely against Trump and therefore makes people feel the need to stay quiet o be ashamed about their support for Trump so B) When people are polled face to face, the numbers for Trump are pretty low. However, when polled on the phone o online, Trump's numbers are about 20+% higher. Obviously there is the issue of online sondaggi not being very trusted so this could go either way but it's still certainly a possibility.

That being said, sondaggio numbers in advance are not completely reliable. As mentioned in the beginning of this thing, Trump has been dominating in the sondaggi since his announcement but these sondaggi are also “completely unreliable” in the opinions of some. As much as there is a chance that he is doing better than the sondaggi are showing, he could also be doing worse.

Additionally, most sondaggi are based on the scenario of Trump vs Clinton, since until recently Clinton has been claimed to be "unbeatable" in her party. Her runner up is Bernie Sanders who is starting to sondaggio higher whereas he was reported before as not really having a chance”. Quite a few people who had supported Trump also supported Sanders but didn't think Sanders could beat Hilary. Now that he is mostrare a stronger chance of winning, as well as Hilary Clinton might be ineligible to run as a result of her criminal activity etc, there is a real domanda of Sanders vs Trump that hasn’t really been polled and debated much before so the numbers related to this unexpected “showdown” (if te will) seem to be anyone’s guess.
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CokeBoy97 said:
Fuck Donald Trump! I hope that son of a cagna gets a cuore attack!!!
I hope he dies! If he DOES become president, I'm going to UK.
Afrojack for president!!!
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 Fuck Donald Trump! I hope that son of a cagna gets a cuore attack!!! I hope he dies! If he DOES become president, I'm going to UK. Afrojack for president!!!
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Kuro_Hyou666 said:
There's always potential for something like that to happen. I personally think it's a massive joke, but it's America's problem, so te guys can deal with it.
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Why do te think it's a joke? It's really not, he really is running.
audreygrace412 posted più di un anno fa
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Lol, what? I know he's running for president... I meant that it is a massive joke that he, personally, is running for president.
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Kuro_Hyou666, I completely understand where te are coming from and politics can be very confusing. This is something everyone really credits Trump for right now is the fact that whether te love, hate o dont care about him, he has made Americans far più interested in their own politics which I think is a good thing because in my opinion, the government loves when the population turns off to politics because then they're più likely to let anything slide and that's what America was becoming which inspired both Trump and Sanders to run. They dont have similar stances but they are both outside of the political "gang" so to speak which has revived an interest in politics in America where the people are starting to feel like they are più the government like it should be (as it was made to be) rather than being for the government. If that makes any sense? I live in the US and follow both sides of the race as I feel it is directly related to my life who will become the president. I have watched media from both sides about both sides and watched many home Youtube video about what people think about all of the candidates. I will just end with saying that if te know this one thing then it will help dissect information a lot: The media in the US is very pro-Hillary and anti-Trump and anti-Sanders. I wont bore te with it but I can assure te without a doubt that Hillary Clinton would be the worst candidate to get nominated of anyone running right now. All of the things Trump is accused of being are più true about her than him. Trump and Sanders have an honesty appeal and the majority of US citizens recognize Hillary Clinton to be a liar and untrustworthy person.
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BabyBlud said:
I'm in England and therefore i probably have no right to answer this domanda but the all out thought here in my tiny part of my tiny country is HELL NO! He's a fricking idiot, all the people i know are quite against him. I would despair for my american Friends if he ever got into parliment :( That man is not suited for election!
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Well the domanda was posed as though they wanted to know what was objectively going on, not what people's personal opinions about him were. Objectively, he has a very high chance of winning. I understand te don't like him but he's no where near an idiot and I find that kind of hyperbole about him to be very hypocritical coming from people who don't like him because they find him to be "too much". te don't need to despair for Americans, a large amount want him and if te lived in America, then te might understand it better from a più objective perspective. :) He is very suited for election, Hillary Clinton is not. She's already proved herself incompetent at lower levels of government, the last thing she needs is an even bigger platform to create scandals and make monumental, nationally affected negative changes. :)
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