PREFACE - THE JEALOUS-FALLACY IN ITS MANY FORMS
Alright, I have already dissected one very common fallacy invoked da some Twilight fan and a few Harry Potter fan as well, the Edward-fallacy. I shall not discuss that one but instead I will be moving on and examine another common fallacy invoked da some fans, using what I believe is the two most common forms of it.
"YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS, THEREFORE YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID"
Firstly, let us examine the logical reasoning behind "You are just jealous, therefore your argument is invalid".
It is invoked when any fan post an argument and employes this one as rearguard to fend off counter arguments; o it is used as an counter argument alone. In essence, da their logic, invoking jealousy immediately dismisses the opponents argument as defeated, and not worthy of any further discussion.
Now, this type of argument is one of the most atrocious fallacies in existence. Instead of counter-arguing against the opponents arguments, it dismisses them da attacking the merit of the person who put the original argument forward. The formal name is Argumentum ad hominem (argument to the person - personal attack fallacy), and in my opinion it is one of the vilest fallacies one can commit.
da insulting/attacking the opponent in a debate, one immediately loses several vital things, like respect. Further, insulting one's opponent has not moved the dibattito inoltrare, avanti as the original arguments remain untouched, and therefore stands until a proper counter-argument takes them down.
In conclusion, calling one's opponent jealous is not helpful at all for one's cause. It firstly removes one's respectfullness; secondly it allows an opponents arguments to stay in place, which is basically handing one's opponents the victory. Now isn't that extremely beneficial for one's cause? Innit?
"YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS OF ME, THEREFORE MY SERIES IS BETTER"
Secondly, we shall examine the above quote. We pose one important question: Why is this argument false?
Firstly, let us see if there are any connection between these two statements: A persons jealousy and a book series' quality. Then I shall prove to te that jealousy is dependant of quality and not the other way around.
The level of jealousy of any person is most often a most personal feeling. It comes when any other person around us possesses something we do not possess, while this something is a thing we desire to have. Then we are jealous.
The quality of any book series of anything is dependent of several things. The grammatical correctness of the prose and therefore the ability to easily navigate the text, the level of interest they raise in us, the difficulty of the words in the prose, the moral message they present, et cetera. Whereas jealousy only touches the quality of a book series if and only if it is already possessing good quality, for who would even be interested in a book for starters if it is riddled with misspellings, faulty sentence order and promotes values we despise? Let alone desire to possess it?
Thus, jealousy is dependent on the quality of a book series, since it appears after the establishment of detto quality. Therefore stating that quality is dependent on jealousy is inherently contradictory to the above proven hypothesis. So da stating the secondo hypothesis, one is obliged to prove it in its own term to defeat the contradiction.
As of yet, no one has presented me with convincing evidence that quality is dependent of jealousy. Since I compiled proof of my hypothesis (that jealousy is dependent of quality), I hazard to say that it stands.
Therefore, jealousy depends on quality, not the other way around. Quod Erat Demostrandum - Which was to be proven.
SUMMA SUMMARUM
To call one's opponents jealous while not counter-arguing detto opponents arguments hands detto opponents the victory da fiat, while being simultaneously fallacious and unworthy of respect. While arguing that "You're jealous of my book series, therefore my book series has quality" is at least a very false argument.
Alright, I have already dissected one very common fallacy invoked da some Twilight fan and a few Harry Potter fan as well, the Edward-fallacy. I shall not discuss that one but instead I will be moving on and examine another common fallacy invoked da some fans, using what I believe is the two most common forms of it.
"YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS, THEREFORE YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID"
Firstly, let us examine the logical reasoning behind "You are just jealous, therefore your argument is invalid".
It is invoked when any fan post an argument and employes this one as rearguard to fend off counter arguments; o it is used as an counter argument alone. In essence, da their logic, invoking jealousy immediately dismisses the opponents argument as defeated, and not worthy of any further discussion.
Now, this type of argument is one of the most atrocious fallacies in existence. Instead of counter-arguing against the opponents arguments, it dismisses them da attacking the merit of the person who put the original argument forward. The formal name is Argumentum ad hominem (argument to the person - personal attack fallacy), and in my opinion it is one of the vilest fallacies one can commit.
da insulting/attacking the opponent in a debate, one immediately loses several vital things, like respect. Further, insulting one's opponent has not moved the dibattito inoltrare, avanti as the original arguments remain untouched, and therefore stands until a proper counter-argument takes them down.
In conclusion, calling one's opponent jealous is not helpful at all for one's cause. It firstly removes one's respectfullness; secondly it allows an opponents arguments to stay in place, which is basically handing one's opponents the victory. Now isn't that extremely beneficial for one's cause? Innit?
"YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS OF ME, THEREFORE MY SERIES IS BETTER"
Secondly, we shall examine the above quote. We pose one important question: Why is this argument false?
Firstly, let us see if there are any connection between these two statements: A persons jealousy and a book series' quality. Then I shall prove to te that jealousy is dependant of quality and not the other way around.
The level of jealousy of any person is most often a most personal feeling. It comes when any other person around us possesses something we do not possess, while this something is a thing we desire to have. Then we are jealous.
The quality of any book series of anything is dependent of several things. The grammatical correctness of the prose and therefore the ability to easily navigate the text, the level of interest they raise in us, the difficulty of the words in the prose, the moral message they present, et cetera. Whereas jealousy only touches the quality of a book series if and only if it is already possessing good quality, for who would even be interested in a book for starters if it is riddled with misspellings, faulty sentence order and promotes values we despise? Let alone desire to possess it?
Thus, jealousy is dependent on the quality of a book series, since it appears after the establishment of detto quality. Therefore stating that quality is dependent on jealousy is inherently contradictory to the above proven hypothesis. So da stating the secondo hypothesis, one is obliged to prove it in its own term to defeat the contradiction.
As of yet, no one has presented me with convincing evidence that quality is dependent of jealousy. Since I compiled proof of my hypothesis (that jealousy is dependent of quality), I hazard to say that it stands.
Therefore, jealousy depends on quality, not the other way around. Quod Erat Demostrandum - Which was to be proven.
SUMMA SUMMARUM
To call one's opponents jealous while not counter-arguing detto opponents arguments hands detto opponents the victory da fiat, while being simultaneously fallacious and unworthy of respect. While arguing that "You're jealous of my book series, therefore my book series has quality" is at least a very false argument.
Okay guys, I know everyone's got their own opinion and not everyone has the RIGHT opinion, but as a Twilight fan, can one of te Potter fan explain what te guys see in Harry Potter? Honestly, I haven't read all the books, but I've seen all the Film and they just don't make any sense. And another thing, the plot is bland and there's no real depth to it, like in Twilight. Harry Potter, also has no Amore in it, which makes for a boring story. Anyways, I just wanted to know what te crazies see in those libri and stuff...
Okay...
See ya :D
Mariella
xxx
Okay...
See ya :D
Mariella
xxx
1. its just all thrown together and the Film leave out way to much.
2. it has no meaning just a girl falls in Amore then is a vampire the end.
3. is just plain stupid.simple as that
4. theres nothing to figure out. its to predictable.
5. it dosent have enough back story which goes back to # 1
6.and stephine myer wants to keep all the good players while j.k. isnt afraid to for the sake of the book
7.why doesnt she mentention why bellas parent got seperated which geos back to #4
8. it has no plot
9. the problem is the same all the way throughout the sires as h.p. faces many problems.
10.its down right boring hmm lets read the same boring thing over and over! yea! NOT!
TEN REASONS TWILIGHT IS HORRIBLE!!!!
2. it has no meaning just a girl falls in Amore then is a vampire the end.
3. is just plain stupid.simple as that
4. theres nothing to figure out. its to predictable.
5. it dosent have enough back story which goes back to # 1
6.and stephine myer wants to keep all the good players while j.k. isnt afraid to for the sake of the book
7.why doesnt she mentention why bellas parent got seperated which geos back to #4
8. it has no plot
9. the problem is the same all the way throughout the sires as h.p. faces many problems.
10.its down right boring hmm lets read the same boring thing over and over! yea! NOT!
TEN REASONS TWILIGHT IS HORRIBLE!!!!
Before te all come out with pitchforks and guns, I'd just like to say this is my opinion.
1, Half of the fan only like Twilight, because they think Rob/Taylor is hot.
2, I can't argue about the plot because there isn't one.
3, Bella has no personaility.
4, Edward is just plain creepy.
5, Bella always needs a man in her life. When Edward leaves she needs Jacob. This is really stupid.
6,Bella wouldn't even look at Edward if he wasn't hot.
7, Edward wouldn't look at Bella if she didn't smell good.
8, It gives a bad message. Like kill yourself when your sparkly boyfriend is around. o there is no point in being happy unless te have a boyfriend. o it's ok to ditch your Friends to data a super hot vampire.
9,Meyer constantly repeats the same words to tell us how hot Edward is. This gets boring after two pages.
10, The actors suck.
There,ten reasons. Feel free to add on more.
1, Half of the fan only like Twilight, because they think Rob/Taylor is hot.
2, I can't argue about the plot because there isn't one.
3, Bella has no personaility.
4, Edward is just plain creepy.
5, Bella always needs a man in her life. When Edward leaves she needs Jacob. This is really stupid.
6,Bella wouldn't even look at Edward if he wasn't hot.
7, Edward wouldn't look at Bella if she didn't smell good.
8, It gives a bad message. Like kill yourself when your sparkly boyfriend is around. o there is no point in being happy unless te have a boyfriend. o it's ok to ditch your Friends to data a super hot vampire.
9,Meyer constantly repeats the same words to tell us how hot Edward is. This gets boring after two pages.
10, The actors suck.
There,ten reasons. Feel free to add on more.
"This baciare between Hermione and Ron is highly anticipated, it's been building up for eight films now. And Harry Potter is not Twilight, te know; we're not selling sex." - Emma Watson
If te think Emma Watson is stupid for quoting this, te are outta your mind. te think Twilight's not selling sex? Irony. Irony how some twi-hards reason out "BECAUSE EDWARD CULLEN IS SO SEXY!!!" if asked why Twilight is better than Harry Potter.
For me, Twilight is just popolare 'cause it has sex appeal. Wait for several years, no one will be talking about Twilight anymore.. Harry Potter won't be talked about that much but it will never be forgotten.In my case, I know Harry Potter will be a future classic.
Twilight fan go ahead and attack me, whenever you're ready.
If te think Emma Watson is stupid for quoting this, te are outta your mind. te think Twilight's not selling sex? Irony. Irony how some twi-hards reason out "BECAUSE EDWARD CULLEN IS SO SEXY!!!" if asked why Twilight is better than Harry Potter.
For me, Twilight is just popolare 'cause it has sex appeal. Wait for several years, no one will be talking about Twilight anymore.. Harry Potter won't be talked about that much but it will never be forgotten.In my case, I know Harry Potter will be a future classic.
Twilight fan go ahead and attack me, whenever you're ready.
This articolo isn't mine, this is just an articolo I found on cracked.com (one of the best sites ever!). I agree with most of it, and on that note remember this is opion based, not fact. This is...*drumroll* if te don't hate Twilight already, why te SHOULD hate Twilight!
Click here to check out the article:
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Enjoy, and no getting pissy (that's right I'm talking to te Twilight fan girls) if you're going to post, DON'T POST unless te write something I can understand. For example, THIS is something I can't understand:
omg liek edward iz liek sooo hawt an like sexxii an liek OMG umminess an u hateur iz liek tttly stoopid an homo an--
It's hurts too much to even finish the example! Anyway, again no haters and enjoy!
Click here to check out the article:
link
Enjoy, and no getting pissy (that's right I'm talking to te Twilight fan girls) if you're going to post, DON'T POST unless te write something I can understand. For example, THIS is something I can't understand:
omg liek edward iz liek sooo hawt an like sexxii an liek OMG umminess an u hateur iz liek tttly stoopid an homo an--
It's hurts too much to even finish the example! Anyway, again no haters and enjoy!