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Gli Eroi dell’Olimpo Who is più powerful?

17 fans picked:
Percy
   65%
Jason
   29%
Nico
   6%
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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
Percy can be bested just be staying away from the ocean, Nico's earth manipulation isn't exactly a lightning bolt.
Of course these polls always have incredibly stupid answers. Here's hoping for a really bad one that I can tear into without feeling bad.
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FantasyLover543 picked Jason:
For once, I agree with Spike.
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eugeniachin picked Percy:
Percy beat the king of titans , Kronos ,
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extremeriordan picked Percy:
Water is an excellent conductor of electricity, therefore if he's clever he can use his powers to redirect any lightning aimed at him. Also, in response to Spike's first argument, people are 80% water, and in order for storm clouds to form you need...Water. Finally, we are all aware that Percy's powers are not limited by proximity to a large body water. "You are not so different from me, demigod. Even when I'm out of water, the water is within me. It is my life source." etc.
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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
Lightning is far too fast to be redirceted by water. Assuming Percy could summon the water it would decimate his stamina and Jason could then just tire him out.
Jason can summon storm clouds with far greater ease than Percy can summon a body of water. It's the lightning that takes the bulk of the effort and Jason can choose when he brings it down.
Jason without lightning is still incredibly agile due to wind manipulation.
People are mostly blood. Are you suggesting that Percy should remove a liter and start throwing it around? Because that isn't that much and even that poultry amount would make him pass out after a minute or two.
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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
Percy beat Luke in a contest of swordsmanship. That is not the same as the almighty Titan King that manipulates time with his willpower. Additionally Luke's body was being fought over and neither of them could die. Call Bob an accomplishment, Hyperion even (Despite the help he received) Kronos was more of a set piece.
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extremeriordan picked Percy:
Oh look, counter-arguments to dismiss.
You do not want to argue the timing thing, for the argument there can go on into eternity and is so subjective even Rick couldn't prove an authority on it.
What's more devastating? The average thunderstorm, or the average hurricane/earthquake.
It takes less energy to summon because it is weaker.
Can Jason swim?(Think about it)
Oh look, he just died instantly because Percy drained all the water from his body.(Psych, Percy's too good of a person to do that)
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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
Blood is not water. Percy is not a blood mage.
Without water Percy's storm would lose to Jason's. Earthquakes don't affect people who aren't on the ground.
I don't recall Jason ever not swimming, being who he is I'm sure he would learn while Leo built the Argo 2
In timing they're equal, however if Jason sets himself up in such a way that there is a great enough distance. (I.E levitating) than Percy can't hit him as Jason could readjust.
You think you're winning, that's cute.
And again, the combat of the PJO series is shallow as a puddle. This isn't Star Wars or The last airbender. People don't have define styles of combat, more so a vague idea of how they'd fight. Jason would conserve more energy but Percy would be more energetic and aggressive. That's about all we know.
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extremeriordan picked Percy:
"You think you're winning, that's cute."-someone with a fragile ego


"'Polyphemus sits blindly in his cave, young hero, believing he has won a great victory. Are you any less deluded' The titan's cold laughter filled darkness"-Riordan
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extremeriordan picked Percy:
Also, have you read HoH?
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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
"Oh look, more counter-arguements to dismiss." -Somebody who has come to incorrect conclusion that they are my equal/superior
Additionally you resorted to insults, which is fine because I enjoy the game. However you did this instead of countering, not really the point of our being here.
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extremeriordan picked Percy:
I stop countering when you cease to raise valid points. You didn't state anything that I hadn't already addressed.
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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
Not quite. You raised some points, I then countered those. That means it's your turn
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extremeriordan picked Percy:
Agree to disagree
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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
That's not how this game works.
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extremeriordan picked Percy:
so let me get this straight,

your ideal argument is:

Yes
no
YES
NO
YES!
NO!
YESSS!!!!!
NOOOO!!!!
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extremeriordan picked Percy:
I will restate my point as soon as you respond to my 2nd and 4th comments through any other means than denying basic facts. If you would like to know specifically what those facts are, then here they are...

1. Percy can control liquids other than water.

2.Percy can summon water from anywhere.

3.The question is about power not fighting tactics and strategy.

4.Percy's personal hurricanes include lightning.

5. All sea winds are in Percy's domain.

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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
Not quite.
Legend: Extremeriordan is ER Spikegilfer1997 is SP
ER: A series of points
SP: Counter arguments
ER: Insult, Unfocused comment, Unfocused comment, Incorrect assumption, Query, Joke that makes Percy appear as if the only reason he is challenged by most opponents is because of his moral compass

To reiterate the reason Percy's earthquakes don't affect Jason is because if they did he could levitate, not all that difficult without holding someone else, certainly less labor intensive than shifting tectonic plates. Percy's storms as a son of the sea god would gain large amounts of power from the sea, whereas Jason just needs access to the sky.

If Jason couldn't swim when he arrived at CHB (Which could be true considering the Romans aversion to water but could be untrue considering their famed baths) than being Jason who has been admired by Piper for his work ethic he would've learned over the several months the Argo 2 was being built.

Percy and Jason have been kept at an equal level in their swordsmanship and physical abilities to avoid favoritism. So thus the edge goes to however can seize the tactical advantage. Levitation allows Jason the ability to do that. So if Percy summoned water Jason could match his reach with wind-based agility. Summoning water is more labor intensive and so such an action would end badly for Percy.

So this was what I was saying. Also keep in mind that Percy's being a son of Poseidon is a convenient writing tool because it allows Riordan to rapidly scale his power up or down without having it feel like Deus ex Machina. (Although this being a Greek thing that element inevitably makes its way into the series.) As a result placing the conflict is difficult because if you make it water based Percy has a bloated advantage (Pun intended) But if you don't he's at a serious disadvantage.

Once again, I say the combat in the series has never been a focus and it shows. So as a result Jason's been able to win on the majority of occasions makes minimal difference.

So in conclusion, no I wouldn't say I replied with a "Yes" or a "No" and if you hadn't quoted me I would've been convinced you were reading another post.
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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
Alrighty, let's get to work

1. Correct, the poison against however that was

2. Yes, however doing so would require effort. Wind is everywhere, thus the quantity is for all intensive purposes infinite and takes less effort

3. Fair enough, power is generic term, though. "Who has the greatest destructive potential?" Would've been a more accurate question in that case. The issue being that human civilization is land based and thus earthquakes would have a large advantage over wind-based destruction. Structures *In the first world* have been built to resist earthquakes more so than hurricanes. However if earthquakes are the trump card than surely it would make more sense to favor Nico?

4. Correct. I would not assume it is more powerful than Jason's for the same reason I would not assume that Percy can create better earthquakes than Nico. (As both are stated on the CHB wiki)

5. Primary application of that being his personal hurricanes, they are water based as well.

So let's go with the destruction argument. Both can cause one massive storm at best before needing rest, the damage it will do would vary on location and numerous infinite scenario's. So they'll come out roughly even. Percy can cause more types of damage but he doesn't have a stamina reserve for each element.
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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
P.S: The American auto-correct is incredibly irritating for not accepting "labour" as an acceptable alternative to "labor" and other such British spellings.
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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
On Percy's water
"Percy can create water from his own power, though it takes much of his energy for him to do so."
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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
I disagreed with the blood point because that would undermine damn near every fight he's ever had. He would've even need to kill anyone

I didn't disagree with the summon water point because it is true. I have said that would leave him at a disadvantage if he had to.

Their power would just mean that they can break things in different ways. If it is about power than the use of the comment "If he's clever" just seems like you letting me get you off track. But since it is the beginning it leads me to believe that this is kind of a slug-fest.

You have implied that Percy can create hurricanes in your second comment. To my knowledge you haven't stated that Percy can create lightning, nor would I disagree if you did. I used to roleplay with Alvin2442 and his various sons of Poseidon, I became very familiar with what abilities they have. (And additional abilities because the Sharingan is not PJO/HoO canon.)

You didn't state that he controlled the sea winds, but rather wind in a more generic sense with the comment about how a hurricane/earthquake would be more devastating than a thunderstorm.. I haven't said that he couldn't to my knowledge.
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extremeriordan picked Percy:
Jason was written to be less or equally as powerful as Percy. This was intentional as Percy is a character thousands of raving fans are dedicated to.
You have to admit that pleasing people in cheap ways is about 60% of this second series.
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FantasyLover543 picked Jason:
In short: Percy can destroy more things. Jason can kill more people. End of discussion.
I can't believe it. Jason and Percy didn't fight each other( not intentionally, fighting due to eidolon possession is another thing) and they have this promising bromance and here people are fighting about who's more powerful. That's ironic.
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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
^I suppose that's accurate. Jason's destruction is more concentrated whereas Percy has everyone of the five major elements save fire.
I just like the discussion. Although again, I'd prefer having a similar discussion about a series where the combat has depth.
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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
^^^ Clearly didn't work though. Although when I disliked Jason it wasn't because he was like Percy but rather because amnesia was his personality in TLH. I like serious characters. (Stannis Baratheon, the most lawful neutral person to ever live.) Can someone go through all Jason's lines of dialogue and see how many on them in TLH are along the lines of "I don't know" or other such amnesia things.
I feel as if Piper's character was created just to suit people who like that archetype.
MoA is so close to a Romantic comedy
Octavian disagrees with Percy and therefore must be a sociopath.
Love-triangles everywhere
Percy remembers Annabeth and only Annabeth.
So yeah, a lot of ways to guarantee happiness done in some cheap ways. Hell, even Leo is basically every fangirls dream guy.
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PiperKitty123 picked Percy:
Percy definitely i mean why do a 5 book series about one character and like you know make a character who seems so perfect that they are like the best or something...Percy is way better than Jason because (im gonna be unhelpful here cos i dont like giving reasons for stuff that are clearly obvious) Percy just is.
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PiperKitty123 picked Percy:
and Percy is soooo cool. my fave characters would be
Percy
Leo
Hazel
Annabeth
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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
*Into the night*
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extremeriordan picked Percy:
Someone picked Nico....*sigh*
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Spikegilfer1997 picked Jason:
In terms of destruction it might as well be him, seeing as he could force souls into the river Styx which would destroy them.
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extremeriordan picked Percy:
If he was a year or two older, Nico would definitely win.

As of now it's hard to say
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demigod333 picked Percy:
Well... Spikegilfer1997 is right in ways and so is extremeriordan, BUT, PERCY IS JUST WAY BETTER!! It's always been that way. Sense the very first book... That's why he was the main character from the beginning.
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Athena123987 picked Percy:
Its either Percy or Jason (not nico, no offense nico)
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