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As asteriamalfoy recently reported on the club wall, it appears that Moana will soon become the newest member of the Disney Princess lineup. The club's reception to the news is a mixed bag, which is the latest example of how the general fanpop opinion (namely, this club's opinion) doesn't always match that of the internet. It's interesting why that is, and I will attempt to find the reason here.

Before going forward, be aware that everything that I consider an "opinion" of fanpop and/or the internet is a generalization. True, there are some users on both this website and the rest of the worldwide web who are in their respective minorities. This is merely a breakdown of how I see it and my attempt to get to the root of the issue -- why is Moana beloved in some places, but not in others? Time to find out.

The Difference of Opinion
I find that on Youtube, Disney-related sites (such as "Oh My Disney"), and other sites (Buzzfeed and the like), Moana is a well-liked character. The common reasons people like her from what I've seen are:

• She's responsible; even though she wants to explore the ocean, she does what's right and chooses to lead her people. And she enjoys it, too!
• She's self-reliant; she doesn't need to be constantly saved, and she can save the giorno pretty much on her own.
• On a related note, she "doesn't need a man."
• On a separate related note, she's quick-thinking and resourceful, o what some people call "badass."
• She doesn't have the traditional look of a Disney Princess, i.e. no formal toga, abito and different body type. This gives her a new and perhaps più realistic look.
• She renounces the princess name.



Then te check out the DP club on Fanpop, and te find that generally, Moana is not particularly loved, for reasons including:

• She has little to no flaws.
• She doesn't have much of a personality.
• She's just a mish-mash of the princesses who came before her -- nothing new.
• She renounces the princess name.

That's quite a contrast in opinion, and maybe a little surprising that a place dedicated to the DPs generally doesn't take too kindly to her. I think I've discovered why this contrast exists, though.

The fonte of the Difference
Perhaps this contrast is because people that te find elsewhere on the internet have a different set of character traits/qualities that they value than the ones on this club. From what I understand, the general internet crowd values Disney Princesses and heroines who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are strong and can work independently
• Are determined and don't give up
• Are admirable

On this club, I think we have a different set of values for DPs. We like those who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are realistic and/or relatable
• Stand for something positive regarding princess-hood, femininity, etc. without feeling forced o too "in your face"
• Respect the DP franchise

Regarding the first bullet point -- I believe both sides like it when a princess/heroine adds something to the lineup, but it is seen in different ways. The internet seems to like how Moana invokes new positive qualities such as the desire and willingness to lead, which, let's be honest, hasn't been done with a DP before, at least not explicitly. I theorize that users on this club, including myself, consider all of the positive qualities of the character and how those stack up against the existing DPs, not just the new ones. For example, action-packed (Rapunzel), self-doubt (Pocahontas, Mulan), determined (Ariel), outspoken (Merida), and funny (Rapunzel, Anna) are all traits that we've seen in other princesses and heroines. The number of familiar traits can make the actual new traits seem like not enough.

However, I think the above argument is only a tiny part of why the fanpop opinion is più critical. The remaining bullet points are key. As stated, Moana does mostra a desire and willingness to lead her people, which would fit the desired element of saying something positive about princess-hood (er, leader-hood, o how about just leadership). Is it in your face? I'm going to lean towards "no," but -- now I'm going to bring my own opinion into the mix -- it's one of the reasons I have difficulty latching onto her character. Despite Moana having this very positive quality going for her, she doesn't feel realistic to me. Her turn-around from wanting to sail the seas to being perfectly content staying and leading is just too sudden. With few flaws to balance it out, she comes across as a little too perfect to me. Perhaps this lack of realism and relatability is what others dislike, too.

It's often detto that a strong character is one who works through their flaws; ergo, a strong female character is one who works through her flaws. Moana might have flaws, but maybe they don't get the focus they need to make us think, "Oh yeah, she overcame that flaw, achieved her goals, and learned something from this adventure." If that's the case, then the positive femininity thing doesn't really work. It's almost too positive, o impossibly positive. We need something più convincing if the takeaway is that a girl/lady/woman can achieve great things.



The biggest issue that Fanpoppers have with Moana comes from this line: "First off, I'm not a princess. I'm the daughter of the chief." This statement has not been well-received because for some, it implies that Moana is disrespecting the Disney Princess name. I shared that opinion too at one point. It may just be Disney poking fun at itself, but it can rub fan the wrong way. If this character who seemingly fits the DP mold can't appreciate the leading ladies who came before her...well, how the heck are we supposed to like her? Contrast this with the general internet's opinion, where people take it to mean that Moana doesn't have to be bogged down da the titolo of princess; one can be a strong character without having a royal titolo o other high status. Or, maybe people like it because it detaches her from the princess stereotype that they can't stand.

The più I think about it, the più I think that line is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it can be perceived as, "Oh yeah, te don't need to be a princess to save the giorno o to be someone important o worthwhile." On the other hand, one can perceive it as Moana being better than a princess, which can be taken as "Oh, te think you're better than the Disney Princesses, is that right?" o "Yeah, the princess titolo is just that -- a title. Not all heroines have to be princesses." Well, maybe there's a better message here. Instead of having your character say they're not a princess, why not embrace their princess-ness (or the equivalent -- daughter of a chief would be an equivalent), and then mostra us that detto character is a good, strong character? You'd be broadening your own definition of princesses to mean any good-natured, strong-willed female, which is exactly what the DP franchise is trying to do now with their recente video and slogan. Then, all of the princesses can be seen in a new and positive light.



Conclusions
Not to be too redundant, but I do believe that Moana's reception here versus on the rest of the internet boils down to what people want and like to see in Disney heroines, as well as how they interpret certain aspects of the character (or lines of dialogue, as discussed above). I think this is also the reason why fan can have such opposing visualizzazioni on other characters, like Ariel o Elsa. It can also be why some characters are sometimes seen favorably here, like the early princesses, but not much elsewhere. It all has to do with the specific set of traits we value. Moana's prospective introduction to the lineup brought this...for lack of a better term, "issue," to the spotlight, for me at least. Perhaps discussions like these will change some perceptions of characters for the better, even if just slightly, if people recognize the exact qualities that are being valued da other fans.
posted by WinterSpirit809
I know it was a while fa since I promised I would defend the Disney Princesses, but it's been hard trying to figure out how to set it up.

Snow White's voice is annoying

Remember, this is a reason why people don't like her. Snow White is always shunned and for shallow reasons like this. Her looks are also insulted as well as her dress.THESE ARE NO REASONS TO HATE A PRINCESSES!!! I'm sorry for hitting the all trofei button, but it's extremely annoying when people judge a princess da her looks and voice. It's like hating someone in real life because they're fat o they're ugly. I guess I have no...
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posted by touchingthesky
12) The Princess and the Frog
I'm not positive but I think this has a somewhat large fanbase on Fanpop? Even if it doesn't, I don't think that I'll ever adore this film. I'll start with the positives. I Amore Down in New Orleans and basically the whole beginning. When Tiana is human, it's actually very entertaining. I adore Lottie, and it just is, for lack of better word, better during this part of the film. It's funnier and much, much less obnoxious. I like Facilier and Tiana and Naveen is hilarious at times, but the secondo half of the film...oh lord. It's so annoying...half the time I can't...
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posted by AudreyFreak
I find that Snow has the opposite problem as Elsa: she is frequently just typed as a sensor (because te know, she's all traditional and not adventurous and likes to cook and all that boring sensor stuff, right?). There's a lot of bias and stereotyping with MBTI fans, and I used to be guilty of it too (OK, sometimes I still am). though to be fair, I think Snow IS a little underdeveloped in ways, so she could really be interpreted either way. However, I'll explain why I think she uses Ni over Si.



Extraverted Feeling (Fe): No doubt about it, Snow White is warm, caring, and a social butterfly....
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posted by disneymagic93
This is my ranking of the princes. This is probably going to be one of my harder articoli so please don't be rude.

12. Hans- I can't even describe how much I dislike this character. I hate the idea that the handsome prince has to be a jerk. One of the things I really hate about Frozen is that it mocks the Amore at first sight of the Walt era princess films. Yes te don't marry a guy te just met but I think most people are smart enough to know that, it's just common sense, yes there is no such thing as Amore at first sight but that's because they're fairytales and fairytales aren't suppose to...
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“Rapunzel” is the kind of story that consistently ranks highly in people’s lists of their preferito fairy tales. With a dramatic plot, interesting characters, symbolic motifs, and the underlying theme of the redeeming power of love, the tale certainly seems to deserve such adoration. Grimm’s version of the story is perhaps the most known retelling,
 Grimm's Rapunzel
Grimm's Rapunzel
although that may have changed as of 2010 with Disney’s adaptation, Tangled, a movie just as rife with symbolism as its literary inspiration. Although both are variations on the Rapunzel narrative, Disney’s movie veers...
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 A collage made da me with some of the Disney Princesses
A collage made by me with some of the Disney Princesses
Here's the 2nd part of my preferito Disney Princess Christmas/Winter Outfits and this time I'm counting down the outfits seen in promotional images, they're quite many so I have to divide this part into 2 parts, this part covers placements 35-21 and the 2nd part of this covers all the remaining placements, this lista was really hard to make, most of these outfits are lovely
Note: the collage here shows Disney Princess outfits that didn't make it into the articolo because they're already shown wearing it o it looks too similar to another outfit they wear

35.

I know that we've seen the mermaid...
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One thing I Amore about Natale is all the cute outfits avaliable and Disney Princesses also wears Natale Outfits aswell as Winter Outfits and since those two pretty much are the same I decided to rank my preferito Disney Princess Christmas/Winter Outfits, there are quite a lot of them so I decided to do a 2 part countdown, this will be dedicated to all the outfits from Film (sequels included) and tv-shows (Only Sofia The First) and the successivo one is dedicated to all the ones seen in promotional images

12. Pocahontas's Winter Outfit Without Cape

This outfit despite it's low placement...
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Hi everyone!

Recently, I postato a domanda asking fan to lista five personality traits most desirable in a Disney princess. My traits poll, which was going to be the foundation of this article, was based on TheMusicalMolls' lista of traits; the first response. I didn't bother to check my domanda again for other responses, but when I returned to my domanda after I postato the poll, I was surprised to see that più fan had bothered to answer my question. At that point, it was only a handful of people, and since I found their lists highly similar to TheMusicalMolls', I let it be. I hope I didn't...
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 Credit to rzenteno for this wonderful image!
Credit to rzenteno for this wonderful image!
So I didn't use any 1 prince twice and I tried to match everyone to their best match outside of the original. This is inspired da the wonderful job of link article. She did an amazing job pairing them up! Such an amazing job that it made me want to try myself. Hope te guys don't mind, this was just for fun! The absolutely ❤️amazing❤️ crossovers were done da a multiple of talented users on this site. The articolo image (top right) was made da link He did a wonderful job, in my opinion! :D Most of my crossovers were done da link No, really. Would te believe she did like 6 crossover photos...
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posted by anukriti2409
Here's my ranking of Disney Prince, barring Prince Hans as he's the DP villain. Hope you'll find it entertaining.

11. Florian:
Apart from Canto and mostrare courtesy and respect to a young maid of lower status, there's literally no interaction and no scenes to understand his personality. It was kind of creepy for me that he'd baciare a supposedly dead maiden. So yeah, he's the last in my list.



10. Naveen:
Spoiled rich brat who didn't even learn after plundering all the ancestoral wealth and thought of fixing it the easy way to find a rich girl to marry. Too flirtatious, too lazy, too laid-back...
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I, myself only knew 8 out of 24. Who knows, te might know più than me o know less than me. Either way enjoy Leggere and absorb the knowledge!

Trivia

1) Art director Brian McEntee color-keyed Belle so that she is the only person in her town who wears blue. This is symbolic of how different she is from everyone else around. Later, she encounters the Beast, another misfit, also wearing blue and with blue eyes. It symbolized good in the film whereas red symbolized evil (the color of Gaston's camicia is red). A notable exception to this code is Gaston's blue eyes - making him the only Disney villain...
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So I Amore Disneyland and Disneyworld and I Amore their Princess-themed attractions. That being said, I always thought it would be really cool if there were più things at the park pertaining specifically to the Princesses as I am a huge fan! <3 So I thought I'd try to see if I could figure out some form of new attraction (ride, shop, restaurant, etc.) for each DP film. I hope te guys enjoy!

PROPS to link for inspiring me to do this articolo with one of her link

1. Snow White's Scary Forest
I thought this would be an annual Halloween event. Something to get the kids ready for the scary walk throughs...
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After seeing Sweetie94's prettiest Disney princess list, I wanted to make one of mine as well. I'm not really a fan of the beauty of modern princesses, I find them rather too doll types, somehow. So they are all ranking low on my list. Hope you'll enjoy it, here it goes:

13. Elsa:
Eh, are her eyes for real? Way too big on her face and her lips are so thin. She does have that Barbie doll kind of look to her. She has an unbalanced face proportion, her upper portion of face is too big as compared to the lower portion and that gives her an unnatural look, imo. I quite like her hair though, snow blonde,...
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Source: http://www.superbwallpapers.com/cartoons/belle-in-a-beautiful-golden-dress-beauty-and-the-beast-4974
So yesterday I wrote an articolo about the Scariest Moments In Each DP Movie IMO, today I'm going to write about the superiore, in alto 10 Scariest DP Movie Moments IMO, I'm also going to write an articolo about the Scariest DP Movies. You'll probably recognise some moments from my precedente articles, but there'll be new ones too so I hope you'll enjoy this article

10. Mordú

I'll just copy what I detto in my precedente article: This orso is really scary looking imo especially with all of those arrows on him and the eyes are creepy too and his dark look also helps making him più scary. Now his death isn't...
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Unlike my preferito Disney Princess lista this lista hasn't changed so much, but I still felt like Scrivere an articolo about this because not only has it changed, it's also been a while since the last time I wrote this article. I find all the princesses pretty, but I have prefrences, for example I prefer the più realistic looking princesses so don't be surprised if most of the bottom placements are the cartoony looking princesses. Anyway enjoy this article

13. Jasmine

I've never really found gelsomino beautiful, she's pretty though. If I where to base this on color scheme only she would be much...
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Last time I wrote this lista Ribelle - The Brave and Frozen hadn't been released so now I'll write this lista with them included, hope you'll like it

12. Pocahontas

This scene is amazing to look at, no wonder many people loves this ending, but why is it then last on my list? While it's an amazing scene to look at it isn't a happy ending, normally I don't mind it, but Disney is known for making happy endings so honestly if this movie was made da another company and was live action I probably would Amore the ending more

11. Mulan

This ending starts off great with Mulan reuniting with her father and Shang...
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So here is the Part 2 to my musical countdown: Scores. I Amore Disney Musica and I honestly Amore the scores over the songs. They have all of the "magic Disney" feel that I absolutely adore. Also, I Amore how the scores can provide a blend of the different songs from it's respective films as well as stir up all of the emotions and/or memories from it's respective scene(s). For those reasons, this lista was much harder for me to make than Part 1: Songs, but I managed to finish! As I mentioned before, I cannot get enough from the musical team of Alan Menken and Howard...
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