So, here it goes.
1. The idea of them moving was just... dumb to me. They are wolves, the PREDATORS, not the prey. Tough it out. There are rogues, yes. But they are worries about the pups getting hurt o stolen again. THEY SHOULDN'T BE PUPS ANYMORE!!! The average lupo is fully mature within 8-14 months, NOT 4-5 years!
2. The fact that the Lupi have a understanding of most things human is creepy... they can drive, know what tech is, they know how to drive, they know what 'cola' is... what??? Just... no. They shouldn't even know what tech IS. Even if they did, they should have their own word for it, maybe something like 'human-stuff' o something that would make them understand it more.
3. THE MOVEMENTS WERE HORRIBLE. Amy wouldn't have been able to do that spin-out thing... she's too big. It also looked like ciao had her model stationary while at the same time used some cheapo affect to make her model LOOK like she was spinning around... I honestly could animate better MC animations using a free Minecraft animating program...
4. The whole thing with the fake lake and them dancing to it involuntarily is just... awkward and makes me cringe. The effects are just... odd... and the lighting is also weird. Marcel and Patty used to be (in my opinion) the only characters (other than Lilly and Garth) who weren't made to look like total idiots. But now... ugh? SHould I even be mad? They were coming out with a good movie and then in a mese came out with a movie that was 45 minuti long that took about a mese to make...
5. The Musica was OKAY. I liked the old sound-track better though. It wasn't bad, it just didn't fit for me.
6. The moose shouldn't intimidate Humphrey like that... he's a wolf, if anything, the moose should be absolutely terrified of him, omega, alpha, beta, whatever.
7. The animating in general was just... lazy and/or just flat out had barely any effort. Like I said, I can make a better animated MC video in a week. They took a whole mese on this (or maybe even more) and they have entire teams working on it. I'm just one guy. Granted, my video would be shorter, but at least I put effort into mine, o at leash mostra it. I feel like Lionsgate, Splash, etc. are all just trying to get all of its fan to get 'unattached' from the movie because they get made fun of for the franchise constantly. So if the fan-base gets disappointed enough, they'll leave and they won't have to keep making movies. Might be another reason for making them so fast; if they make enough, they won't have to make più since MOST franchises only last for 6-8 movies.
8. A REALTOR??? Since when do Lupi have those? I know this is technically a kids' movies, but even most kids won't understand what a realtor is. Even if the Lupi DID move, they should just permanently migrate da themselves, they don't need a realtor. They also wouldn't (most likely) sposta BACK to their old home.
9. WHAT THE HELL LIONSGATE/SPLASH?? WHY? Please, just save up a budget, work on a movie for a while, put some effort into it, and make sure the fan have a good rating for it before it is released. IDC if te spend 2 years on the movie, and then te release a version for fan-critique purposes, and then the fan hate it and te are forced to re-do the ENTIRE thing. Give us a better movie! te complain that anti-A&O people hate on the movie and your company, I wonder why! EFFORT AND TIME!!!
10. How did Amy even know what was happening after she came back to life? You'd think that when she came back to life, she'd be freaking out and she'd be confused da what happened, where she was, etc. But yet, she came back, and INSTANTLY knew what had happened. She wasn't even the slightest bit phased da the fact that her kind (in the modern era) was extinct, that she was millions of years old and had somehow just da being dug up came back to life, etc. How in the world did she know she was 65 million years dead? It made no sense...
(I will add anything later that I missed, and if te want your opinion on here, just let me know in the commenti and I will put it in here. FYI, I don't personally midn the magic stuff. I just think that some of the OTHER logic is worse than the magic logic is.)
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Readers' opinions:
HumphreyWolfMan:
Well I'll be più comfortable giving my dibattito here since te were trying to mostra me the article..
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Well while I can't judge te for disliking something, I do however think it's arguable to argue the arguments on here under the "need work" argument.
"1. The idea of them moving was just... dumb to me. They are wolves, the PREDATORS, not the prey. Tough it out."
I'm confused about this part..
"2. The fact that the Lupi have a understanding of most things human is creepy... they can drive, know what tech is, they know how to drive, they know what 'cola' is... what??? Just... no. They shouldn't even know wha"
I can understand that while they are anthropomorphic (Which IS an excuse similar to a Pixar movie) it could be kinda odd for them to suddenly know far away human stuff all of a sudden, BUT since they are anthro, they can learn about them (E.g. Birds teaching them what this is and that) in the same way a popolare Pixar movie with a character did.
I think them knowing words can be possible, past films (popular films too) did this too, and even that same Pixar movie, Ratatouille.
They could probably hear humans say the words, though cola is too specific that they probably should of shown how they learn that o avoid that word on the movie?
Please also note that this isn't a Bambi like film, it's più like Disney with the other stuff. Especially the movie Ratatouille. Sadly that's the only best film I can think of.....
"3. THE MOVEMENTS WERE HORRIBLE. Amy wouldn't have been able to do that spin-out thing... she's too big. It also looked like ciao had her model stationary while at the same time used some cheapo affec"
Huh.. interesting. For me, I find the Cuccioli flying 1000 feet in the air very wrong..
I mean, I think a realistic argument can be made for this one as many other things in movement and laws were used before...
(I think what te made could also be a good point)
4. The whole thing with the fake lake and them dancing to it involuntarily is just... awkward and makes me cringe. The effects are just... odd... and.."
To avoid overreacting possibilities, te say it was awkward because of the effects, etc. o was that a separate part?
"6. The moose shouldn't intimidate Humphrey like that... he's a wolf, if anything, the moose should be absolutely terrified of him, omega, alpha, beta, whatever. "
In the past movies, nearly all animali were friends. I don't think they take that part that seriously. Even the first movie was like that.
Humphrey was a più nice guy too if I could remember.
"7. "
Was it that bad? I looked at it again, I realized now it's not as bad as I thought, but there was a couple of parts where it was bad.. like really bad. Hahaha
"8. A REALTOR??? Since when do Lupi have those? I kno"
Well, Lupi can't sled, stand, golf, play games, have Christmas, dance, talk più than 250 words while humans can, grab many things like humans, etc. But since they are anthro (I suggest looking up 'anthropomorphic' on Wikipedia and some other stuff like some films), a lot of these Lupi can have personality and may have similar human stuff. They didn't go that far da just mostrare a house, they showed a cave. lol - It's possible Kate and Humphrey needed help looking for a sicuro, cassetta di sicurezza place.
"and then te release a version for fan-critique purposes, and then the fan hate it and te are forced to re-do the ENTIRE thing. Give us a better movie! te complain that anti-A&O people hate on the movie and your company, I wonder why! EFFORT AND TIME!!! "
I don't know if that's their purpose. And some fan are different.
As for Alpha and Omega haters. It's only their own fault. They just hate things cool and they could learn to ignore it.
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I hope I'm not fighting. I just wanted to bring out a few points.
te used the word 'Effort and Time' though, so is (for example) telling that they shouldn't have a Realtor, they should just find a cave da themselves a change instead of adding?
Though I shouldn't say something can be flawless out of biased, but I liked the Realtor part, it was kinda funny (But I don't understand how the cave was fake) and original, and honestly my preferito parts of the film was all the Kate o Humphrey moments, even careless about the dinosaurs.. but there is one part I found really nice.
What was really emotional (not that much but still) was the welcome, and the hug, I thought that was nice.
Oh and for me, from what I detto earlier, I've made a mistake. I actually watched più parts and there was some più explanation for the dinosaur, though I don't know if it's enough..
Again, I understand te don't like some parts and I respect that, though some fan liked it (at least me). I was only debating the 'needs work' claim. :)
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Me, QuietWind/AlphaClub, replied with:
- "I think them knowing words can be possible, past films (popular films too) did this too, and even that same Pixar movie, Ratatouille. " I just think that for THIS movie, it's weird. It doesn't fit.
- "Huh.. interesting. For me, I find the Cuccioli flying 1000 feet in the air very wrong..
I mean, I think a realistic argument can be made for this one as many other things in movement and laws were used before... " Yeah, I realize now.. I knew I was forgetting something.
- "To avoid overreacting possibilities, te say it was awkward because of the effects, etc. o was that a separate part?" I just honestly don't like the movements.
- "In the past movies, nearly all animali were friends. I don't think they take that part that seriously. Even the first movie was like that.
Humphrey was a più nice guy too if I could remember." Yes, but it would make it WAY più realistic and better to watch (IMO) if they made them scared of the Lupi instead of vice versa.
- "Well, Lupi can't sled, stand, golf, play games, have Christmas, dance, talk più than 250 words while humans can, grab many things like humans, etc. But since they are anthro (I suggest looking up 'anthropomorphic' on Wikipedia and some other stuff like some films), a lot of these Lupi can have personality and may have similar human stuff. They didn't go that far da just mostrare a house, they showed a cave. lol - It's possible Kate and Humphrey needed help looking for a sicuro, cassetta di sicurezza place." One, I know what anthropomorphic is. I'm in the furry community (PM me on this, please, like seriously). But they shouldn't need a realtor. How in the gods' name did they even know about 'wolf-burbia'? Even if they knew from plain gossip o something, they never explained it.
- "I don't know if that's their purpose. And some fan are different.
As for Alpha and Omega haters. It's only their own fault. They just hate things cool and they could learn to ignore it." Yeah, maybe. IDK. I'm just saying that that's how it seems to me.
- "Though I shouldn't say something can be flawless out of biased, but I liked the Realtor part, it was kinda funny (But I don't understand how the cave was fake)" I admit it was funny. But it just seemed to out-of-place to be in the movie. Also, the cave is fake because it is made FOR Lupi da those human park rangers that built that park (the ones who were digging up the bones).
(I'm also going to update this and add some più that I remember I missed.)
1. The idea of them moving was just... dumb to me. They are wolves, the PREDATORS, not the prey. Tough it out. There are rogues, yes. But they are worries about the pups getting hurt o stolen again. THEY SHOULDN'T BE PUPS ANYMORE!!! The average lupo is fully mature within 8-14 months, NOT 4-5 years!
2. The fact that the Lupi have a understanding of most things human is creepy... they can drive, know what tech is, they know how to drive, they know what 'cola' is... what??? Just... no. They shouldn't even know what tech IS. Even if they did, they should have their own word for it, maybe something like 'human-stuff' o something that would make them understand it more.
3. THE MOVEMENTS WERE HORRIBLE. Amy wouldn't have been able to do that spin-out thing... she's too big. It also looked like ciao had her model stationary while at the same time used some cheapo affect to make her model LOOK like she was spinning around... I honestly could animate better MC animations using a free Minecraft animating program...
4. The whole thing with the fake lake and them dancing to it involuntarily is just... awkward and makes me cringe. The effects are just... odd... and the lighting is also weird. Marcel and Patty used to be (in my opinion) the only characters (other than Lilly and Garth) who weren't made to look like total idiots. But now... ugh? SHould I even be mad? They were coming out with a good movie and then in a mese came out with a movie that was 45 minuti long that took about a mese to make...
5. The Musica was OKAY. I liked the old sound-track better though. It wasn't bad, it just didn't fit for me.
6. The moose shouldn't intimidate Humphrey like that... he's a wolf, if anything, the moose should be absolutely terrified of him, omega, alpha, beta, whatever.
7. The animating in general was just... lazy and/or just flat out had barely any effort. Like I said, I can make a better animated MC video in a week. They took a whole mese on this (or maybe even more) and they have entire teams working on it. I'm just one guy. Granted, my video would be shorter, but at least I put effort into mine, o at leash mostra it. I feel like Lionsgate, Splash, etc. are all just trying to get all of its fan to get 'unattached' from the movie because they get made fun of for the franchise constantly. So if the fan-base gets disappointed enough, they'll leave and they won't have to keep making movies. Might be another reason for making them so fast; if they make enough, they won't have to make più since MOST franchises only last for 6-8 movies.
8. A REALTOR??? Since when do Lupi have those? I know this is technically a kids' movies, but even most kids won't understand what a realtor is. Even if the Lupi DID move, they should just permanently migrate da themselves, they don't need a realtor. They also wouldn't (most likely) sposta BACK to their old home.
9. WHAT THE HELL LIONSGATE/SPLASH?? WHY? Please, just save up a budget, work on a movie for a while, put some effort into it, and make sure the fan have a good rating for it before it is released. IDC if te spend 2 years on the movie, and then te release a version for fan-critique purposes, and then the fan hate it and te are forced to re-do the ENTIRE thing. Give us a better movie! te complain that anti-A&O people hate on the movie and your company, I wonder why! EFFORT AND TIME!!!
10. How did Amy even know what was happening after she came back to life? You'd think that when she came back to life, she'd be freaking out and she'd be confused da what happened, where she was, etc. But yet, she came back, and INSTANTLY knew what had happened. She wasn't even the slightest bit phased da the fact that her kind (in the modern era) was extinct, that she was millions of years old and had somehow just da being dug up came back to life, etc. How in the world did she know she was 65 million years dead? It made no sense...
(I will add anything later that I missed, and if te want your opinion on here, just let me know in the commenti and I will put it in here. FYI, I don't personally midn the magic stuff. I just think that some of the OTHER logic is worse than the magic logic is.)
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Readers' opinions:
HumphreyWolfMan:
Well I'll be più comfortable giving my dibattito here since te were trying to mostra me the article..
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Well while I can't judge te for disliking something, I do however think it's arguable to argue the arguments on here under the "need work" argument.
"1. The idea of them moving was just... dumb to me. They are wolves, the PREDATORS, not the prey. Tough it out."
I'm confused about this part..
"2. The fact that the Lupi have a understanding of most things human is creepy... they can drive, know what tech is, they know how to drive, they know what 'cola' is... what??? Just... no. They shouldn't even know wha"
I can understand that while they are anthropomorphic (Which IS an excuse similar to a Pixar movie) it could be kinda odd for them to suddenly know far away human stuff all of a sudden, BUT since they are anthro, they can learn about them (E.g. Birds teaching them what this is and that) in the same way a popolare Pixar movie with a character did.
I think them knowing words can be possible, past films (popular films too) did this too, and even that same Pixar movie, Ratatouille.
They could probably hear humans say the words, though cola is too specific that they probably should of shown how they learn that o avoid that word on the movie?
Please also note that this isn't a Bambi like film, it's più like Disney with the other stuff. Especially the movie Ratatouille. Sadly that's the only best film I can think of.....
"3. THE MOVEMENTS WERE HORRIBLE. Amy wouldn't have been able to do that spin-out thing... she's too big. It also looked like ciao had her model stationary while at the same time used some cheapo affec"
Huh.. interesting. For me, I find the Cuccioli flying 1000 feet in the air very wrong..
I mean, I think a realistic argument can be made for this one as many other things in movement and laws were used before...
(I think what te made could also be a good point)
4. The whole thing with the fake lake and them dancing to it involuntarily is just... awkward and makes me cringe. The effects are just... odd... and.."
To avoid overreacting possibilities, te say it was awkward because of the effects, etc. o was that a separate part?
"6. The moose shouldn't intimidate Humphrey like that... he's a wolf, if anything, the moose should be absolutely terrified of him, omega, alpha, beta, whatever. "
In the past movies, nearly all animali were friends. I don't think they take that part that seriously. Even the first movie was like that.
Humphrey was a più nice guy too if I could remember.
"7. "
Was it that bad? I looked at it again, I realized now it's not as bad as I thought, but there was a couple of parts where it was bad.. like really bad. Hahaha
"8. A REALTOR??? Since when do Lupi have those? I kno"
Well, Lupi can't sled, stand, golf, play games, have Christmas, dance, talk più than 250 words while humans can, grab many things like humans, etc. But since they are anthro (I suggest looking up 'anthropomorphic' on Wikipedia and some other stuff like some films), a lot of these Lupi can have personality and may have similar human stuff. They didn't go that far da just mostrare a house, they showed a cave. lol - It's possible Kate and Humphrey needed help looking for a sicuro, cassetta di sicurezza place.
"and then te release a version for fan-critique purposes, and then the fan hate it and te are forced to re-do the ENTIRE thing. Give us a better movie! te complain that anti-A&O people hate on the movie and your company, I wonder why! EFFORT AND TIME!!! "
I don't know if that's their purpose. And some fan are different.
As for Alpha and Omega haters. It's only their own fault. They just hate things cool and they could learn to ignore it.
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I hope I'm not fighting. I just wanted to bring out a few points.
te used the word 'Effort and Time' though, so is (for example) telling that they shouldn't have a Realtor, they should just find a cave da themselves a change instead of adding?
Though I shouldn't say something can be flawless out of biased, but I liked the Realtor part, it was kinda funny (But I don't understand how the cave was fake) and original, and honestly my preferito parts of the film was all the Kate o Humphrey moments, even careless about the dinosaurs.. but there is one part I found really nice.
What was really emotional (not that much but still) was the welcome, and the hug, I thought that was nice.
Oh and for me, from what I detto earlier, I've made a mistake. I actually watched più parts and there was some più explanation for the dinosaur, though I don't know if it's enough..
Again, I understand te don't like some parts and I respect that, though some fan liked it (at least me). I was only debating the 'needs work' claim. :)
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Me, QuietWind/AlphaClub, replied with:
- "I think them knowing words can be possible, past films (popular films too) did this too, and even that same Pixar movie, Ratatouille. " I just think that for THIS movie, it's weird. It doesn't fit.
- "Huh.. interesting. For me, I find the Cuccioli flying 1000 feet in the air very wrong..
I mean, I think a realistic argument can be made for this one as many other things in movement and laws were used before... " Yeah, I realize now.. I knew I was forgetting something.
- "To avoid overreacting possibilities, te say it was awkward because of the effects, etc. o was that a separate part?" I just honestly don't like the movements.
- "In the past movies, nearly all animali were friends. I don't think they take that part that seriously. Even the first movie was like that.
Humphrey was a più nice guy too if I could remember." Yes, but it would make it WAY più realistic and better to watch (IMO) if they made them scared of the Lupi instead of vice versa.
- "Well, Lupi can't sled, stand, golf, play games, have Christmas, dance, talk più than 250 words while humans can, grab many things like humans, etc. But since they are anthro (I suggest looking up 'anthropomorphic' on Wikipedia and some other stuff like some films), a lot of these Lupi can have personality and may have similar human stuff. They didn't go that far da just mostrare a house, they showed a cave. lol - It's possible Kate and Humphrey needed help looking for a sicuro, cassetta di sicurezza place." One, I know what anthropomorphic is. I'm in the furry community (PM me on this, please, like seriously). But they shouldn't need a realtor. How in the gods' name did they even know about 'wolf-burbia'? Even if they knew from plain gossip o something, they never explained it.
- "I don't know if that's their purpose. And some fan are different.
As for Alpha and Omega haters. It's only their own fault. They just hate things cool and they could learn to ignore it." Yeah, maybe. IDK. I'm just saying that that's how it seems to me.
- "Though I shouldn't say something can be flawless out of biased, but I liked the Realtor part, it was kinda funny (But I don't understand how the cave was fake)" I admit it was funny. But it just seemed to out-of-place to be in the movie. Also, the cave is fake because it is made FOR Lupi da those human park rangers that built that park (the ones who were digging up the bones).
(I'm also going to update this and add some più that I remember I missed.)
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